k to 12, k to age 16, and i'm saying, okay, what if we added one extra year? because what that would do would be to teach our students something they don't get from their k-12 education, which is a sense of responsibility, a love of the country, and also the idea that we're all part of one american family, right? i mean, on memorial day, maybe we should remember that the one thing which really serves to unify the country more than anything else has been service in the military. people in the military are -- have better values and a stronger sense of identification with the country. and one extra year of effectively schooling in the military would not be a bad idea then. abby: let's get back to the original problem and why you wanted to write this piece because you say other than education being there to inform people and educate them you say it was supposed instill a love of our country, you talked about unite us to bring people of every race and every class together. you say education is not doing that so talk to us about the root of the problem and if it isn't a draft, because the reality is we don't have a draft what is the answer to that problem? >> public schools are supposed to do a couple things. one is educate or kids. they don't do that very well. i mean, we're an honorary member of the third world as far as that goes, but the other stuff is the stuff that they used to do. public school used to be the most american thing about america. and you'd get out of public school learning some pretty good values. and now, the teaching corps has completely abandoned that mission. where you would find it would be in the military. so i'm saying one extra year, you know, up to now it's age, you know, -- to age 16, add another near. griff: frank, it's a great idea and, you know, to really teach those who have not participated in the service what it's all about would be great. but do you really believe with the culture of our public schools today, that you're going to have these teachers, particularly in the latter years encouraging their students to really get fired up to go serve their nation in the history in this culture? >> no, not at all. and that's the point. the teacher corps, you know, the national education association will be completely opposed to that. why? because it would teach a love of america, it would teach personal responsibility, all the things they hate. so, yeah, all the more reason why we should do it. the only people i feel sorry about for in all of this would be the drill instructors. [laughter] pete: you and me both. go to basic training, basic military service near where they live, is that the concept? >> that's dreaded basically, one extra year. pete: one x-ray year, infuse values the public schools are not doing now. abby: if you're not going to join the military, get to know these men and women, because as you said they are outstanding individuals and they are what makes this country so great. frank buckley, interesting piece if you haven't already read it, thanks for being with us this morning, and have a great weekend. >> thank you. pete: thank you, sir. all right. well, former obama d.o.j. official sally yates claims the d.o.j. operates free of politics politics. really? congressman ron desantis here to respond coming up. abby: and a historic vote making internationals headlines. ireland moving to repeal its abortion law. big shift for a country made up of many catholics. is this a sign that religion, especially christianity, is becoming more progressive, and is that a good thing? 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is that a good thing or should we stick to the original tenets? that is the core question here, should religion stay conservative to the core tenets or follow the progressive trends trends-of-society? let's bring in our religious panel to discuss. dr. menezafridi is a muslim scholarly, dr. razz is the national leadership conference, rabbi cooper is an associate dean is he simon wiesenthal center, and father jonathan morris is a fox news religion contributor. a great panel. i could start it out this way. a muslim scholar, evangelical pastor, and catholic piece enter a jar. but i won't. it would be the start of a great joke. no laughing matter, a serious subject. father john, i want to start with you. ireland, a predominantly catholic country, what is this vote saying about the current status of the catholic church? >> we should be clear that the leadership of the cache stood up against the repeal of this amendment, so it wasn't that the catholic church has said no, this is the direction we want to go in. but they did not have the authority or the persuasiveness sufficient in order to say "no" to this repeal of this amendment amendment. and so it says that, unfortunately, society has moved in this direction so strongly of pro-abortion, you call it what you want, you could say no, it's just, you know, we're just allowing free choice, but the united states of america alone since we've had upwards of 40 million abortions. 40 million? that is a huge number, and the fact that ireland, a catholic country, a christian country is going in that direction is nothing to celebrate. pete: abraham, you call it a protest vote. why? >> well, i think what we're looking at in ireland is an embrace of the, you know, eu environment. ireland's done very well by taking a lead in the european union. and, you know, as an orthodox rabbi it's not for me to comment on which a the church should do, but clearly that society that has made a move and now you have a church where it's still a predominant faith, there's predominant teachers, but there has to be a shift in terms of persuasion rather than the starting point, well, these are the rules, you follow them, you know, our way or out the door. it is a pivotal moment. pete: samuel, pivotal moment overall as well, from an evangelical perspective, is progressivism creeping into our faith? and if so, what impact is that having on not just ireland, but america and the world at large? >> well, the idea of progressive christianity is oxymoronic in its depiction and its expression expression. you can't have both progressive christianity. let me explain. christianity is about the gospel the go to sleep of jesus never changes. it's truth, love, grace, hope, and faith, regardless of the time, the culture, society. truth, love, grace, and hope should never be sacrificed on the altar of political, cultural or sexual expediency. pete: absolutely. menaz, briefly on this, what does islam have to say about abortion and life as it pertains not just to ireland but the whole issue? >> well, islam, like all the other abrahamic faiths, believes that, you know, there is a value of human life. however, it's also a very practical religion where there have been certain legal scholars that have said that if there is a danger of mother's health or there is some kind of disease, that it is permissible under a certain kind of legal situation. it's not that muslims don't -- are promoting abortion at all, but i think that there are certain loopholes in the islamic law, and there are certain fatwa fatwas which is just a legal opinion from scholars that do allow it under certain circumstances. it's a very multilayered issue. i'm the only woman here on the panel so i would like to say that it is an issue that's very complex for all women, whether they are pro-abortion or against abortion. pete: of course. >> i also don't like the term " "pro-abortion." i don't think anyone is pro- pro-abortion. i think we're all pro-life and it's about how we see life is important to us in our faith. pete: one more topic, try to get you all to chime in on it briefly. is the u.s. plummeting birthright a sign that a focus on family values are diminishing diminishing? the new stats from the national center for health statistics shows that less babies are being born in the united states. the replacement rate is generally two kids per family, but you see those numbers, the number of babies born per year is dropping. father john, let me start with you. the stereotype of course is that catholic families have lots of kids. if that is changing, would that be a sign that the view of families is changing for catholics as well? >> i think so. i mean, i think the sexual revolution has affected the catholic church, the united states of america in a profound way, saying sex has nothing to do with procreation. and it's not all about procreation. it's also about the unitiv action, but there's also very practical political things that are changing in the united states. for example, people are graduating from college with $200,000 of debt, and are they going to get married to somebody who has $200,000 of debt and start off a family that's $400,000 of debt and have children? it's not easy. that's why politics matter. also very important things like family l.fe pete: abraham, for each of you within i want to get you all in, i don't have that much time yet. what is about birthrate that matters in demographics? >> take a look at our two allies japan and israel. japan's very affluent. they're probably going to go from 130 million to 80 million people. they're not bringing children into the world. i think they've lost their values. israel, you you guys cover them every day, it's under the gun, existential threats. the birthrate among religious and secular people is going up because they have a sense of their past and future. as far as america, it's called the iphone. this is the me generation. my suggestion is shut the damn thing off and go back to basic values. pete: samuel, why do kids matter matter? >> kids matter. it's a de facto outcome of a constant mockery of the institution of the family. we see that culturally in films and movie and content, in writings, publications, social media. the family now is a joke, and even the idea of a modern family a traditional family for whatever -- however you want to describe it is a joke. so it's under assault, kids matter, it's the future of america, the future of morality and spirituality, the future of our human existence indeed. pete: menaz, you speculate that the economy has something to do with birthrates as well. >> absolutely. i mean, i think if you look at statistics and if you look at data, women are having kids later, women have trouble having kids later because they're looking for a professional life. they have to both be working, a man and woman or any kind of relationship you have to both have incomes. i think the economic factor in the united states makes it very hard for middle class and lower middle class families to have a whole realistic economic plan. and i think that people are getting married later, even in the muslim-american community i see this as a big impact. pete: it's an amazing cultural conversation because in the west families are having less kids, but a lot of the refugee or immigrant populations moving into those countries are having more kids, which changes the whole religious, cultural, and social dynamic in those countries. it truly matters. we're going to have you guys back, i have a feeling, on future sundays. menaz, samuel, abraham, jonathan smart folks. appreciate your faith as well. thank you. >>> former obama d.o.j. official sally yates says robert mueller mueller's team is acting fast. really? 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griff: good. so did you have anything your reaction to ms. yates there? >> a couple things. what she's saying is that there should be a division between justice and white house which she's saying is that she thinks elite bureaucrats like her should be independently of any accountability or oversight. and we're seeing that with the justice department fighting congress, with we're trying to get facts about how they handle this trump and hillary investigations. and so what she is saying is much different than the constitution that the founding fathers set up. and i think she's also somebody that is coming under scrutiny from what we're trying to un uncover in congress because she was involved in the fisa application that has been so controversial, she was involved in the michael flynn interrogation in terms of trying to say there was a logan act thing. so there's all kind of questions about her conduct, and i think that she probably's best to maybe button it up a little bit. griff: congressman, will her name come up, then? you are a member of the judiciary and the oversight government reform committee, you have the investigation looking into the clinton email scandal. you're also looking at the f.b.i. informant story. are you going to talk with her? >> so here's where i think she plays in with the clinton stuff is you remember andrew mccabe in the portion of the ig report that's been released, mccabe said someone from sally yates' office and mccabe's got credibility issues call and said "hey, shut down the clinton investigation investigation." this is right during the heat of the election. so that would have come from sally yates, so we absolutely need to probe her role in how this clinton foundation investigation was spiked. and then, yes, with the informant, remember, this guy, who directed him was, was justice involved, who at the f.b.i. was involved? they really have been investigating trump in some way since the spring of 2016 when loretta lynch and comey decided we're not going to brief trump's campaign about possible russian activity. i think that was a deliberate choice because they wanted to get dirt on the future president president. abby: congressman, switching gears here, i want to get your thoughts on something going on in florida. a popular grocery store, publix, if you've ever been to florida and you've not gone to publix and gotten one of their subs, they will change your life, but some controversy, they have now suspended any political giving, making political contributions in the wake of mounting pressure over its support of adam putnam who you know is running as a republican candidate for governor of that state. he strongly supports the nra and he's a congressman. you don't agree with this decision. you say that this is caving in to pressure. and just to be clear here, publix, the grocery store has given across the board to political causes, not just on the republican side or to a pro- pro-nra candidate. you say they're caving in, this is not the decision they should have made? >> yeah, you don't agree with a lot of their contributions, but they should not let the inmates run the asylum. i mean, people go and shop for grocery stores, they see a bunch of people laying around? that's not exactly good for their experience. it kind of gives meaning to the idea that there's a cleanup on aisle 6. so i think when you let the left pressure you into backing down, that's a mistake. what the left's trying to do is make the second amendment toxic, and i think people like me, you know, we need to stand for all of our constitutional rights, including the second amendment. but these private companies should not be bullied so easily. i think publix made a big miss. abby: they said it's not about guns, we are supporting this candidate because he is pro- pro-business. that's what we're supportive of. now they've backed away. great to have you on, congressman. have a great weekend. >> thank you. abby: thousands of bikers are about to roar through our nation nation's capital for a memorial day tradition. we are live at the kickoff of rolling thunder. we all know it, we all love it. that is coming up next. your digestive system has billions of bacteria, but life can throw them off balance. try align, the #1 doctor recommended probiotic. with a unique strain that re-aligns your system. re-align yourself, with align. money managers are pretty much the same. all but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that's why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. ♪ pete: hundreds of thousands of bikers descended on our nation's capital to remember our heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice, and to honor the prisoners of war who have still not come home. griff: here now to tell us more is the executive director of rolling thunder who helped with creating this run, artie muller. artie, good morning to you. tell us, this is a run that has grown considerably, and you are going to rev those engines today today. >> good morning. yes. abby: tell us all about it. tell us how -- >> a huge turnout again. pete: where does that passion -- it continues to grow, you're highlighting prisoners of war, folks missing in action, hundreds of thousands of motorcycles descending to washington, d.c. why are so many so passionate about this? >> 'cause they're good americans and they care. these men and women ride for the rights of all of us so that we can live free the way we do, and our government has -- the war, gets us involved, and leaves us behind after a war, not only our country, many other countries that were left behind, their people were left behind after the war and we're fighting on our side. griff: artie, you penned a letter this year to rolling thunder's web page talking about the environment we're in. some people don't want to stand for the national anthem and some other issues. what is your message that you want the nation to hear today? >> well, i think anybody don't want to stand for our national anthem should leave our country, these baseball, football players all the sports players. if they cannot respect our country, they should be fined, and if they do it a couple of times, they should be fired. there's plenty of people out there, good americans, who want to play ball, and if they cannot respect our flag, our country, our national anthem, we don't need 'em. abby: yeah. well, the ride is today, rolling thunder. i imagine there will be american flags everywhere. everyone will be standing for that anthem. just quickly before we let you go, how many people are coming out today for this ride? 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