k. o. b. before the break we were talking about how racism seems to be hard coded in our d.n.a. it's almost an instinctive human trait and all solutions seem to have failed including reparations and the idea of us going into cyberspace and achieving a true meritocracy by shedding all of our biases and prejudices and getting into something different now some would say oh you know what you're going to lose some of your into hope to gain the meritocracy you're going to lose some of your authenticity however what yours what you're suggesting is that with with this idea of migrating to cyberspace we are actually potentially going to find our true worse a kind of our deeper selves so it's very profound very philosophical and this is all about summer solutions but i mean this is an interesting concept and maybe just give it another minute or 2 to dig into that a little bit late to be saving. people's views around greece. i think it's we want to get so you can explode this interview and also be seen as black white male female able bodied or not. of any religion and and not have any fit