fred, not sure if you heard earlier, i was talking to k.t.nd and she says listen, you don't give isis $200 million in exchange for the return of hostages. you take that money and you put the word out in their own backyard that we are going to take this money and put the bounty on your head. you turn these guys in your cousins, friends there in the community who know who they are, we will give you a reward. what do you say about that idea or do you have another idea as to how to put a stop to these radical islamists? >> nice to talk to you but this is a sad day. the $200 million ransom was completely out of bounds. obviously that would simply be used to commit more acts of terror. as i said to you when we discussed this last weekend i actually thought the trade for the jordanian pilot was something i might have done. you don't want to negotiate with terrorists but we already negotiate with terrorists. we negotiated with the taliban. to save the life of an innocent person, i think that's something i might have gritted my teeth and done. but rea

k.t., pete williams is usually a reliable reporter. but to report two of the suspects were dead and one taken into custody, this is a big mistake. >> and i think we're going to see more of it. why? traditional media is dying. newspapers are dying. people are still watching television, but increasingly getting their news from the internet. that means instantaneous. every few minutes you refresh your page. so the push will be for the mainstream media to try to get out there and be fast, too. the good old days when i was with the pentagon we took people like fred and put him on a boat in the middle of the water until the operation was over so there wouldn't be any leaks. >> fred, you worked for nbc news for decades. >> pete williams is one of the finest reporters in this up to. i've known him and worked with him for 30 years. he had -- .i've done some reporting on this. he had multiple sources from multiple agencies within the u.s. government getting information from french intelligence and french law enforcement over a period of a couple

k.t.d deputy of secretary of defense for president reagan and this is something so many have been concerned about, the safety of this japanese hostage as well as that of the other hostages isis threatened to behead. what does this do to the whole dynamic of that supposed trade that would have taken place for kenji? >> well, probably just shows you can't trade. you can't negotiate with terrorists. you can't pay ransom for hostages. this is the new normal in the region and they have now got the momentum. as you point out there are more hostages. we know there's an american woman there. we know there are other western hostages that they're going to trot out and going to say we want a prisoner swap. we want a ransom paid. we want this, we want that, or we're going to behead your people. i think we need to switch the momentum and seize the momentum and what we, the west, should now say is the americans, the british, the japanese, anybody else who has hostages who have been beheaded or who are s

k.t. is former deb ti assistant deputy of defense in the reagan administration and fox news analyst. thank you for joining us. >> thanks heather. heather: so what is the deal here? the ruble is worth -- it's the lowest it's been in years, worth half as much as it was just last year but yet, vladmir putin continues to push forward. what will it take to stop him? >> well you know heather it makes perfect sense why. vladmir putin needs ab enemy right now. he needs his people to rally around him. he wants to stay in power and so he's got an enemy. who is the enemy? the west. united states, ukraine. he's got to have an enemy to focus the attention of the russian people away from their dire economy and towards an external enemy. here is what's happened. a year and a half ago, vladmir putin's popularity was below 50%. half of the russian people did not want to see him stay in power. but then the ukraine crisis happened almost exactly a year ago. what did vladmir putin do? he responded to it by wh

. >> i want to bring in k.t. macfarlane who is very familiar to fox viewers has an extensive background in defense. she joins us. we have been having many conversations today about how this impacts u.s. intelligence how we operate. new things we may be drawn into new ways we have to handle. the threats aren't new but possibly the way we address and talk about them may be. >> certainly the way we talk about them. we have the french prime minister saying that they're at war with radical islam. we have the president of egypt who has come out and said to his own clerics, to the leading muslim scholars in egypt and the world, it's on you. you know you've got to reform. you've got to stop persecuting people around the world who don't agree with the things you preach. and so we have leader who have had great courage to stand up and say that. in the united states, we have a president who is reluctant to call it even terrorism. he likes to call it workplace violence. even when this first happened the first paris massacres

k.t.and will give us her take later in this hour. >>> and the primary wreckage has been found of 8501. sonar pinpointed four massive objects that are lying on the bottom of the java sea, but extremely rough weather is still setting them back. divers can't get down there to confirm what they have seen on sonar is parts of the fuselage. as the search for the black boxes, well, that's slow going. several dozen bodies have been recovered a week after it disappeared off radar. in a few moments we'll go live to david piper for the very latest on that recovery effort. >>> iran and six world powers what i be moving closer to a nuclear deal. at least two diplomats saying washington and tehran have tentatively agreed on a formula out outlining areas of a potential agreement. the next round of talks scheduled for geneva. the main point of convention is over a stockpile of enriched uranium. the u.s. and its allies want iran to export most of it. something tehran is refusing to do. >>> well, a ship car

k.t.d, former deputy deputy secretary of defense in the reagan administration. >> reexamine about it's a hopeless cause. you feel for the president of afghanistan. he's a reformer but he's doing it too late. if we had done this 8 years ago it might have been a different outcome. the military doesn't work, the police forces don't work. massive corruption throughout every aspect of afghan society. as we and our allies leave the taliban is coming in. the taliban decided years ago they would play the long game. they knew we would eventually like ebb else has get tired of being in afghanistan and they waited us out. bill: the president says the u.s. operations are over but there are 10,000 military members there and they will be there for some time. >> we are leaving 10,000 troops there. supposedly they will be in advising and training and not be on front lines of the battle. but as we have seen in afghanistan, every place is the front line of the battle. the president says by 2015 we'll draw t

. >> the "washington post" ran one of the cartoons but k.t. is it cowardly not to run them? >> i understand why the organizations do not want to they are worried they put their people at risk. if everyone did it if everyone ran the pictures and said, this is what incited the silent, this is the excuse radical jihadist used, it would be a strong statement. we have all the journalists talking moral high ground but they are not doing it. >> we have seen those car troops reprinted in a lot of places and denmark is a good example. the publication that first published the cartoon that got the journalist kill and "charlie hebdo" reprinted it and got fire bombed every paper in denmark now is publishing except for the one who said they have to recollect their people. >> fox news is not running the car troops saying safety of the correspondents and questions of taste are an issue here. cnn president said he is torn he wants to run them but told the staff protecting our employees is more important right now. >> i agree with that. i don't agree you run these because if you are a world-w

joining me now is fox news national security analyst k.t. mcfarland. so you know this.hese terrorists are getting out of france. >> here is what happened you are a citizen, you can travel throughout europe, you don't have to have a visa, nobody stands your passport. go through and you get all the way over to turkey and then turkey has a border that is porous with syria. the equivalent of travel agents that help people get from turkey into syria fight five crisis get trained by them, get rattled allies and then come back and go home. they are well-funded, they get back to their country of origin, they know how to move around and they are citizens of that country. they know how to move and that is what they do, they know how to recruit and set up cells, we think one of the terrorists in paris with somebody was a travel agent. you help people go that route. cheryl: the older brother had trained with al qaeda. but he had had this. so let's talk about these no-go zones. how concerned should we be? these are young poor moslems who are immigrants and they are not being introdu

the next two years will be very difficult but i do ultimately agree with k.t.hat in the end america will most likely indoor. [applause] >> thank you. i would like to thank the william f. buckley program for inviting me. i am a little puzzled as to why i was invited because i am not a foreign policy expert unlike my coat panelists and professor hill. i will make a few comments. keep that door open. professor hill mentioned, somebody has done their homework. i did not send this in i bio data to the organizers but professor hill mentioned i founded something called the institute for the democratization -- secularization of islamic societies which gives you the acronym. isis. anyway. and robert reilly and hugh fitzgerald. james burnham's book "suicide of the west: an essay on the meaning and destiny of liberalism" is full of insight on foreign policy which i find relevant to this day. the only a substitute for islam in many observations to realize the continuing curtains. i should limit myself to one of his observations from chapter xii, quote, the communists and d

joining me now is k.t. mcfarland. this does seem like we are seeing more and more of this.t it is the new norm. >> i absolutely think that this is the new norm. look back at 9/11. putting together this massive spectacular attack. both al qaeda and ices would find it difficult to pull off that level of attack. both those organizations have explicitly made a call to their organizers. clearly, neither of these guys were core members of al qaeda or ices. it is equally clear that they had support and training. these guys were professional test. they were not out there just screwing around. they knew what they were doing. they obviously had some sort of training. they acted on their own though. melissa: katie, do you agree with that? >> absolutely. what the worry is this is sort of like another version of the boston marathon. they somehow left france to go. training somewhere. they came back to do attacks in their homeland. my worry about this is we will see more of this. we know that there are hundreds, if not thousands of european fighters that have gone to fight with ices and

let's bring in k.t. mcfarland. let's start with the warnings. just four months ago president obama said that yemen was a success story. >> yeah. >> did he not read the news reports, watch tv? did he learn about it as we all did yesterday when the yemeni government fell? >> i think they're so desperate to claim anything as a success that they've claimed libya which is now jihadi chaos and yemen which we've seen had a coup. those rt big successes. everything else in their foreign policy is much worse. it's all relative. >> what do we make now of the death of king abdullah of saudi arabia, mixing that with the collapse of the yemeni government. one analyst called it the worst-case scenario for the united states. >> gretchen, you're talking about the major problem. it's two things that have happened on that arabian peninsula from which the world gets a significant percentage of its oil. what's that? a coup in yemen and who's taken over? the pro-iranian group. right next to yemen is saudi arabia. and the pro-american king has died. a new guy has come

we had k.t. mac farland, very experienced in the military. she says listen, put a bounty on their head. you don't give them $200 million, them being isis. you spread that money in the community there and say, you want this money? then you turn in jihad john. is that the approach or is there a better strategy? should there be a new strategy in this fight on isis? >> i think there could be several strategies. i agree with kt. i think bounties can work. it should be tried. we should attempt that. but also one of the problems with us pulling out of iraq the way we did and also the fact we have no troops in syria at all, we have very little intelligence presence on the ground and we really are not close to what's happening over there. we have to be able to get intelligence assets on the ground in iraq. that's difficult to do without some level of military support. so i would say this is another effect, bad effect of our troops being withdrawn too quickly from iraq. if we had a military presence there, that would give us more of an intelligence pre

joining us is fox news contributor and fox news national security analyst k.t. mcfarland.tes has come out and condemned the shooting. >> that's great, but i think we need to understand that this is the new normal. this is radical muslim extremists who are going to attack civilians in the united states, britain and france and other countries in europe and they'll do it randomly or for alleged insults to their religion and in the name of religion. it's not just terrorism. but let's call it what it is. let's take the political correctness away and call it what it is because once we do that it's easier to find, track and follow people and hopefully prevent this. >> it's amazing, too, is that we understand what's significant about this is how armed and trained at least two gunmen, maybe more seemed to be. not only did they have an attack plan, but seemed to have an escape plan. what else stands out that makes this attack different? >> i think because it's in france and france where they have had -- they have a really strict gun control policy, for example, they've had a very po

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. >>> a great deal of leverage on the world stage, fox news national security analyst k.t. is with us. do you think america is using the leverage which we have? >> no. and it's going -- we've got more and more leverage, and we're using it less and less. who are the big winners, who are the big losers right? cheap oil totally changes the geopolitics of the world. the big winners obviously, as you just pointed out the united states. big losers? oil exporters; russia, iran venezuela. those countries need high oil prices to survive. and so we should be cutting deals with iran to our favor no longer to their advantage and we certainly should look at russia which is now underwater. stuart: you could say that president obama's policy of doing very little to aggravate putin is a winning strategy because he's hurting himself -- >> right. stuart: -- and the price of oil is really hurting him. you could say that obama's policies is not too bad. >> you mean he got there by sent? stuart: -- by accident? stuart: i believe it is. >> i don't think he had anything to do with the fracking in

k.t.farland, good morning to you. >> what senator mccain is saying we want to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here. that's what president bush did for 10 years. the bigger strategy is fight them over there fight them here, but fight them from within. until it's a ideological victory, it's the only way we can succeed. >> do we need to do more? >> i think so. but that's not to imply we are not doing enough if you understand the distinction. >> what he said was we have been playing an away game against the enemy. >> what he also said is we haven't been doing it very well. he said we'll wait and eventually isis will collapse from within. maybe, but there will and lot of damage until then. for years we have been trying to prop up an iraqi army to fight. they haven't done it. what happens if a little bit of help isn't enough? are we going to get in a bigger way in ground forces? the administration has been in a muddle from the beginning. the foreign policy was is bush d