k.t. mcfarland and former cia operations mike baker. ight, k.t., you have been an assistant secretary of defense. you have been involved in some of these meetings where people are prepared before they go on television and you have been involved before someone goes out and makes a statement for the administration like susan rice. >> yeah. >> on something this big. what do you make of the fact that now we know that there was no spontaneous demonstration, that there was no video, that prompted this to happen? >> well, we know that the president knew. i think even more importantly, because the secretary of defense and the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, within minutes of the attack, within hours, they went to see the president. now, it's inconceivable that they didn't say, mr. president, we're under attack in benghazi. we're worried we can't find the ambassador. they told the president that they were under attack and that there was likely al qaeda affiliates doing the attack. >> but let's go back to the preparation of the statement. i

k.t. mcfarland is here.s the sige and the reality despite what the president says, they will roll back the program but the reality is that once the sanctions are lifted even partially there will be a stampede of business. people have been waiting it is a lucrative market. you will see the every indian stock market has already gone up 30% just on the promise of this. companies are trying to do a negotiations with automobile plants. the iranian economy will boom was significantly no matter what happens. but second, the military is predominant in the region because with that threshold of nuclear weapons states. dagen: what happens with the nuclear program? >> it doesn't get rid it or dismantle any facilities for it may cause them but the fact is you have of a popcorn machine but now we have the of bowl of popcorn there are still plenty of colonels and we still have the machine. connell: how is that the fact go? >> because of other countries in the region. they may say they are one year away from a nuclear weapo

k.t. mcfarland is a fox news analyst. great to see all of you., i don't know if brits are more polite than americans or italians as michael grimm pointed out. did you take that as a huge threat? was that a huge mistake on his part? >> a huge pr fail. you do to a drugstore as a politician and the camera is on you. the state of the union. here is the thing, i didn't know about this guy until today. now i know up to no good, finance problems, campaigns, a colorful private life which i've been reading about. really he blew this out of proportion. it's his own fault. >> well, he is from new york and saying i'll break you in half is like saying good morning. say that again i'll slap the teeth out of your mouth. no one takes it literally. no one thinks they will be beaten with the bloody end of your arm. most of the time they are right. >> unless that reporter was thrown off the balcony if he followed through whether or not he said. >> he blames mom. i've got five kids. i've been blamed for enough stuff. he blames mom. i think he's got a history with th

k.t. mcfarland and mike baker. that is a mouthful. you better bring it. you have been skeptical of this. are you still as skeptical? >> this is the easy part. in exchange, they have decided to freeze the program. what we want them to do is roll it back. we have now given up all of our leverage. the reality of it is one so sanctions are lifted, it is like a floodgate. the rest of the world counts. their uranium stock market went up by the end of december on a mere promise and suggestion that the sanctions would be lifted. once the sanctions are lifted even slightly, there will be no stopping. mike, do you agree? >> yes. i am skeptical. once you start this process, it is very hard to stop. people are always looking for a way to beat the sanctions. they will not turn back the clock just because it says we do not have transparency. that will be the biggest issue. it is nice to have this opportunity, but, frankly, wishing and hoping is not a good foreign policy process. dagen: do we even know kt? >> others have said as much as a year. nobody is saying five years. iran will be perceived. no ma