i'm not opposed to testing children to find out what they know, because we use tests to kach. tees are high stakes. the results come out over the summer, after the schoolier ended, so no one can use the information, it's the number. parent get into information. stakes. >> you don't have a problem with standards involved in common core, and what they are trying to teach, what they profess or are trying to do is make sure that all children have a certain level of education and graduate. >> there's nothing wrong with standards, and high quality schools had standards, but they are set by experts in the field, teachers, administration, community who can reflect what we know children need to learn and do. it's fine to have a conversation about standards, it's silly to attach funding and attach qualifications to one test. >> as you know, all the studies of where america ranks, we are doing terrible. >> we are. >> so if we do implement common core as expected in new york, adopting it early, spreading to the country, how do you figure out whether it's working or not if we don't have th