robert kagan is the husband of victoria newland. the u. s . under secretary of state, it was fuzzy linked to ukraine's 2014 my done uprising. the united states has used its power and influence to defend and support the hedge money of liberalism. the defense of ukraine is a defense of the liberal hedge money. when republican senator, mitch mcconnell and others, say that the united states has a vital interest in ukraine, they do not mean that the united states will be directly threatened if ukraine falls. they mean that the liberal world order will be threatened if ukraine falls awhile. kagan claims the liberal world hinges on ukraine's success in the conflicts . he is seemingly ignoring your decision to suppress opposition media, deny citizens the right to piece, full assembly, and order a crackdown on ukraine's orthodox church. or wall ranking in the world's top. 67th percentile of corrupt states. washington's fides for the liberal world order has placed it on the center of the federal government collapses. with a former us national security a

that's what kagan's was. and abrams was.special to be polite, but that's their job and and they are beating drums of war in ukraine now i it pains me to be here and agree with henry kissinger but in fact he was right on ukraine this is extremely dangerous and even the new york times wrote an editorial this idea that zelinsky is going to all of the territory in ukraine, including those parts that have the ethnic russians, is a fantasy. this is the new york times. so they wrote an editorial, i think in may saying this. and kissinger said of it correctly that, we we can't corner and humiliate putin. he's a major power. and there has to be it doesn't excuse what putin did because as i said before, it is a crime. but as george kennan said of the expansion of naito that it was the greatest. it took the exact quotes in the book. it was the greatest blunder of the post-cold war era and it was so there to be this war is not going to stop as long as we are pumping billions. i mean, we've given more in terms of military and economic as

justice kagan using her brilliance with a sharper tone than she used to.ackson, the newest on the court is remarkable in how she has taken the court by storm in terms of oral arguments. she is speaking more than any other justice by a lot. anymore words -- many more words, i think more power and passion then her colleagues. the liberal justices are not going down without a fight in these cases. they are making the cases clearly and as passionately as they can. i do think as you mentioned, this extracurricular work during the summer mainly, but not only during the summers, but mostly some of the justices on the further right, especially justice alito but also justice amy coney barrett and justice thomas have made some comments that seem to be along the lines that you mentioned. it has got to be upsetting for those who are not in the same position that they were a couple of years ago, at least being in the mix of making an effort to try to win cases by appealing to a justice on the right. host: bernard is in elk grove, california. independent line. good morn

at the beginning of 1918, the honor of the turkistan region, the former kagan, the khanate declared autonomyd immediately great britain remembered the old ties with the kokant, which were over 50 years old. prior to that, she incited for a war against the russian empire and sent military instructors 500,000 rubles to kokand. armed, at the same time the british began to arm and train the army and the world, bukhara on july 28 of that same 1918, the former border, the former already russian empire, 100 km southeast. ashgabat is being crossed by british troops. the british occupied several battalions of the yorkshit hemshar and pijab infantry regiments for the caspian railway , occupied ashgabat, occupied the port on the caspian sea , krasnovodsk. officially, it is believed that the corps of general malison entered the region to prevent the capture of the caspian railways by german troops, because the first world war is still going on, but in fact, think about where in the spring of 1918 year german troops and in general, what is the position of germany and where is the railway beyond the caspi

justice kagan using her brilliance with a sharper tone than she used to.on, the newest on the court is remarkable in how she has taken the court by storm in terms of oral arguments. she is speaking more than any other justice by a lot. anymore words -- many more words, i think more power and passion then her colleagues. the liberal justices are not going down without a fight in these cases. they are making the cases clearly and as passionately as they can. i do think as you mentioned, this extracurricular work during the summer mainly, but not only during the summers, but mostly some of the justices on the further right, especially justice alito but also justice amy coney barrett and justice thomas have made some comments that seem to be along the lines that you mentioned. it has got to be upsetting for those who are not in the same position that they were a couple of years ago, at least being in the mix of making an effort to try to win cases by appealing to a justice on the right. host: bernard is in elk grove, california. independent line. good morning.

. >> reporter: fred kagan's institute for the study of war produces daily maps showing how much groundhas been forced to give up since its invasion stalled. putin is trying to make up for it by unleashing drone and missile strikes against ukraine's cities. break ukraine's will to continue the fight. and most importantly i think he's focused on trying to break western support for ukraine. >> which does he have a better chance of breaking? >> the will of the western democracies. i think he has very little chance of breaking the will of the ukrainians in any short period of time. >> reporter: the biden administration put on a christmas pageant of support for zelenskyy during a whirlwind visit to the nation's capital. the embodiment of his country's fighting spirit. zelenskyy thanked the u.s. for the $22 billion in weapons it has already committed and made clear he will be asking for more. >> we have artillery. yes. thank you. is it enough? honestly, not really. >> reporter: ukraine is heading into the dead of winter under a continuing barrage of russian drone and missile strikes. >> destr

. >> reporter: fred kagan's institute for the study of war produces maps showing how much ground russiao give up since its invasion stalled. putin is trying to make up for it by unleashing drone and missile strikes against ukraine city. >> putin is looking for ways to break ukraine's will to continue to fight. most importantly, i think he is focused on trying to break western support for ukraine. >> reporter: which does he have a better chance of breaking? >> the will of the western democracy. he has little chance of breaking the will of the ooh ukrainians. >> reporter: the biden administration put on a christmas pageant of support for zelenskyy during a visit to the nation's capitol. the embodiment of his country's fighting spirit, zelenskyy thanked the u.s. for the $22 billion in weapons it has committed and made clear he will be askg reinmor . >> we have artillery. yes. thank you. is it enough? honestly, not really. >> reporter: ukraine is heading into the dead of winter under a continuing barrage of russian drone and missile strikes. >> destroying heat and light to ukrainian people

robert kagan, thank you for coming on the show this morning.ichard, the giants going into the playoffs, how deep are they going to go? >> we're feeling good about sunday. they wanted minnesota, not san francisco. they're going to beat them this sunday. >> willie, do you think the giants can beat the vikings? maybe the worst 12-4 team in football? >> i do. i think daniel jones is hot at the right time, if saquon can run the ball. the defense is playing well. we are believers, go big blue. >>> still ahead, one of the nation's most prominent civil rights leaders, the former head of the naacp ben joins us with his new memoir. a pair of broad way stars, tony award winner pen -- ben platt and macayla diamond will be here with an exclusive announcement. "morning joe" will be right back. if "morning joe" will be right back if when that car hit my motorcycle, insurance wasn't fair. so i called the barnes firm, it was the best call i could've made. call the barnes firm now, and find out what your case could be worth. ♪ call one eight hundred, eight milli

elena kagan. sonia sotomayor. and as i mentioned we live among legends like dr. hazel dukes, who is still, to this day, at 91, saying we still have that march toward justice. it is not finished yet. we are still working together. each of the women i mentioned redefined leadership in their own way and paved the way for others to follow. and to be clear it wasn't just because they are women they made their mark. they embod dwhrid courage and the character that still defines new yorkers to this day. and above all, they were fighters. and now as i stand before you, humbled by this honor i am ready to take on the fight. one of our former governor, teddy roos vel you've heard of the man in the arena, now there's a woman in the arena. that man and woman are willing to be mired by dust and sweat and blood to strive valiantly and spend herself in a worth -- herself in a worthy cause. the sign says, i didn't come here to make history, i cam here to make a difference and pursue the worthy causes, pursue them together. and as your governor i'll keep fighting for you every si

best to you and all the best in this good in fact, one of the first sources of this fake was leonid kaganhe author and he has his own there or as a diary, livejournal block. no matter where he wrote in a rather sarcastic style, he first wrote that what they really do there is pierre-maria sklodowski kerry uh, well, to be fair. i've checked this morning. uh, on the spot , he wrote a rebuttal on the spot, he admitted the mistake and said that it was true. these are not maria soldier chickens. and the fact that these are our soviet scientists and the fact that he was wrong. that is, he, as it were , admitted his mistake. leonid kaganov is a well-known, internet-type comedian who tries to joke funny. well, this here is a classic, but the fool did. eh, fool, then sorry stuffed in the comments. eh, he's an idiot. he corrected himself, but the sediment remained. you understand what's the matter. here is the first thing. he saw it because he was giggling, you know? he counts everyone. eh, fools around. yes, he doesn’t know who yermoli is and didn’t know him, although he probably watched a movie a

host: this is from justice kagan: good morning -- caller: good morning. how are you guys? i was curious about this narrative i heard with the national debt, that the ratio is about 1.2 times what our annual income as a country is. that seems to be national debt to the public, which governments expense. we have a law of costs and i agree that we should debate what we are spending this money on. but this perception that this debt is out of control and the republicans keep saying it is 1.2 times the national debt is a bad thing, yet when it comes to personal debt to private interest, it's ok to have a 200 some $5,000 mortgage and still make $54,000 per year. this is crazy talk, to talk about a debt limit when we need to talk about specific issues. when you talk about the popularity of programs that could really go far toward saving a lot of money for the taxpayers, we have 50 million votes from the republicans to repeal and replace, but nobody wants to talk about medicare for all. we spend over $1.5 trillion in private insurance that could go directly toward medical costs and

we have deborah kagan energy fellow, at the transatlantic leadership network. we have dousman analyst. we have west clarks, the former supreme allied commander for europe. we have former minister of defense from ukraine at the risha center. we are going to start -- eurasia center. you will -- wrote a provocative article on the need to retake crimea. we will start with him. you wrote this article on not just in the importance but viability of ukraine taking back crimea. you know the west has been cautious in providing weapons out of concern for provoking the kremlin. please tell us why and how ukraine can take back the peninsula. >> thank you into laughter one. thank you for highlighting that article. i do not know people will read it. first of all i think the fear of provoking kremlin should be out of the agenda now. the kremlin is engaged in a war which is the largest war in europe since world war ii. constant concerns to not provoke. we heard this from your. we have been engaged in european security or politics or anything to do with ukraine, is honestly sorr

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based prudence across thens constitution guarantees bt particularly the first amendment which is elena kaganginalists now and as much as these concepts are informing religious liberty, according to professor, it turns out none of these developments there much resentment to the original rights understanding generally held by the founding generation and he's provided an extensive analysis of the political philosophy, underlying theological ideas are meeting american life of the founding and the meticulous review of history under both first amendment establishments and free exercise clauses. this analysis makes it an interesting read but perhaps more important, i think it isha admirable and i say that precisely because i don't agree with the conclusion. tonight i am your moderator, i think in the spirit of candor, it's worth noting during the day i litigate limiters liberty documents that he disagrees with and it's on page one of the purpose for all of the analysis, he does not favor some of the results, implementation of the series in the booke produced ad it might even undermine current guara

kagan thanks very much for being with us, always so interesting to get your take on covid pretty wantn the official chinese information on their covid outbreak. they claim they can only had 5242 deaths from covid in china. what you think of those numbers? >> we know from the doctors they are the estimates must be in the hundreds of thousands. hospitals have been overrun, patients have been turned down in the icu. the crematory's have had a long wait list. those are all indicators the numbers are not accurate for the chinese government is also had a very peculiar turn with dropping the coded zero policies for they also stopped reporting daily covid deaths in daily covid cases. at the same time they stopped travel requirements for testing inbound travelers to china. the doctors there are frustrated for they see feel unsupported unlike the past when the hospitals were built up an extra beds were given. every prominent doctor who's there cannot be hushed are speaking out now criticizing the government paid the government and very difficult position. jon: what is it mean about the health o

he seemed to think, and i think it was justice kagan who also suggested around the same time we're goings committee is done. we have heard nothing. that was the first the american people heard there even was a committee investigating this. so i think that is very discouraging, the moment to find this leaker was immediately afterward. i don't think there is enough right then. a small university of people who had access to draft opinions like that. and many of them have left the court by this point. so it's going to be hard for the chief justice to track them down now. >> nicole: i think they said 70 people so hopefully they could narrow it down. thank you so much carrie severino. >> thanks. >> nicole: former house speaker newt gingrich joint us next hour over who w with just one pill a day. choose acid prevention. choose nexium. theo's nose was cause for alarm, so dad brought puffs plus lotion to save it from harm. puffs has 50% more lotion and brings soothing relief. don't get burned by winter nose. a nose in need deserves puffs indeed. america's #1 lotion tissue. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ["jump" by van

for -- and the seventh was only up for grabs because its most recent republican state senator, jan kagan's, was directed to congress in november. she went to congress, she took a seat, and i remember this is a state that gave republicans the first big electoral success post donald trump. 2021, jen youngkin won the race for governor. the first republican state ride statewide winner in more than a decade. they flipped seven seats in the state house, when he majority. after that election, with some reason, the conventional wisdom was that the republican party was back on track and crucially that attacking donald trump, as terry recalls, had done, was a dead and four democrats. so last night, the special election wasn't just a test case for the republican party in virginia. it was also kind of a rerun of the themes in the strategies of each party in the most recent midterm election. on the republican side, retired navy lieutenant commander kevin adams ran on a very familiar fear of crime agenda. >> karen adams is the strong leader hampton roads contrast. >> i'm kevin adams and i probably serve

us so make the argument for us, talk about your rationale here the justices kagan and sotomayor should now as opposed to waiting whenever they are ready to. >> okay, seems like we may have lost a connection to the end. we will try to establish that. but essentially the argument -- hopefully will be gettable to get him is the argument that in the two-year span they have to appoint justices that could perhaps be of younger age and that would give them the longevity to serve on the core. until the republicans at least in these to your windows see how the politics of it plays out. hopefully we will get that connection with the and reestablish so he can join us. but we do want to bring in our panel to discuss that one, edith, susan and deniece of all us is she with us. you know, the argument that is being made is that with the republicans potentially taking over the senate and who knows what happens on the presidential fight, on the presidential front, this will be the only chance that democrats have to have to -- longevity to withstand the republican pressure on the courts. susan, i'll sta

. >> charles needs to be kagan, actually take his son's offer up.titution, that's what he needs to do. bonnie greer, max foster, kate williams. appreciate all of you for being with us. thank you so much. turn back to u.s. politics and our breaking news tonight. president biden now with his own classified documents controversy, and the justice department investigating. details, next. ♪ ♪ ♪ dry skin is sensitive skin, too. and it's natural. treat it that way with aveeno® daily moisture. formulated with nourishing, prebiotic oat. it's clinically proven to moisturize dry skin for 24 hours. aveeno® let's get started. bill, where's your mask? i really tried sleeping with it, everybody. but i'm done struggling. now i sleep with inspire. inspire? inspire is a sleep apnea treatment that works inside my body with just the click of this button. a button? no mask? no hose? just sleep. yeah but you need the hose, you need the air, you need the whoooooosh... inspire. sleep apnea innovation. learn more, and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com (cu

it's a very important part of society today and well, i guess it's both spider-man and justice kagan who said with power comes great responsibility. the next question that we got from someone who's watching focuses on your point about elections in integrity of election administration. it says should open source election machine software be required for transparency, even though it would cause massive costs to replace proprietary software can that be done legally? so there's a huge dispute and i'm only on the periphery of it because i' a technologist about whether open source software is the best way to produce election machinery right on the one hand if it's open source, then you can have outside people confirmed that the voting machines are not being manipulated on the other hand if it's open source, you might provide new ways for hacking because people can kind of see under the hood figure out how the thing works and looks for look for solutions, so i don't have a well-informed opinion about that, but i do have two related opinions one. i've already given you every voting machine s

constitutions guarantees and particularly toward the first amendment for as much to quote justice elena kagan, we're all originalists now and as much as they're forming the court's religious liberty cases generally, according to professor munoz it turns out that one of those developments bear much developments to the original natural rights in the foundation. and accord to go the claims. professor munoz provided an exsensitive philosophy, underlying theological ideals at the founding and careful review of ratification at the establishment and free exercise clauses. and this analysis makes it a very interesting read, but perhaps more important than it being interesting, i think it's admirable and i say that precisely because, frankly, i don't agree with the conclusion. while tonight i am your moderator, i think in the spirit of candor, it's worth noting that during the day, i litigate the very religious liberty doctrines that professor munoz tis agrees with. and he is upfront on page one of the preface no less that for all of the analysis, he does not favor some of the results that implementat

but toward the first amendment for as much as to quote justice elena kagan, we're all originalists now and for as much as these are informing the court's religious liberty cases generally, according to professor munoz, it turns out that none of these developments bear much resemblance to the original natural rights understanding of religious liberty that was generally held by, the founding generation and. in support of that claim. professor munoz has provided an extensive analysis of the founders political philosophy, the underlying theological ideas permeated american life at the founding, and a careful, meticulous review of the ratification history under both the first amendment's establishment and exercise clauses. this analysis makes it a very interesting read, but perhaps more important than it being interesting, i think it's admirable and i say that precisely because frankly, i don't agree with the conclusions while tonight i am your i think in the spirit of candor it's worth noting that during the day i litigate the very religious religious liberty doctrines that professor munoz

i remember me and the kagan were at his place and we played violin sanato, and uh, in some part theresn't heard anymore. he said hit that bass one more time. and he never criticized. he never criticized. he was terribly sweet, and very modest. well, i'm sorry, i'm not going to help you with your coat. you know me how illness and then no more than 2 months before his death. we recorded the record on the stage of a large hall, and he just sat all the time. he sat in the room where all the equipment was and listened from morning to evening and commented. and the worst thing was that it was somewhere in june at the beginning of august, because of the same program, we played at his memorial service, for the same purpose. we had to go again to be examined, when we came they said that nothing could be done. he was placed in the kremlin in the hospital. and i remember that there i read to him my daughter's memories, maxim has already begun to conduct. he had to leave. he came to say goodbye to me. i left the room, nothing. maybe he knew they would never see him again. so, in general, maxim an

and this was at the same time that justice kagan had made some claims sort of in the opposite directiontarts, and i think it was kind of inevitable that the tensions that were playing out in those discussions would enter the courtroom from time to time. they do a pretty good job of keeping a cap on their interpersonal battles normally, but there are some raised eyebrows, some rolled eyes, some looks and occasionally sharp tongues. >> i have to sneak in a quick break. i want to bring kim and barb on the other side. please stay with us. no one is going anywhere. we'll be right back. ight back. ooh, we're firing up the chewy app. can't say no to these prices! hmm, clumping litter? resounding yes! salmon paté? love that for me! essentials? check! ooh, we have enough to splurge on catnip toys! we did it, i feel so accomplished. pet me, please! okay that's enough. now back to me time. luv you! great prices. happy pets. chewy. so cozy. how many rooms are in there? should we go check it out? yeah. we get to stay here all weekend! when you stay at a vrbo... i call doing the door code! ...the hos

i played justice kagan at the top.justice roberts is apparently bereft at the plunging approval rating of the court. we also don't need anyone, an internal investigator or the fbi, to suss out why. they are doing things that any normal listener of confirmation hearings thought they weren't going to do. right? they talked about precedent. i'm not a lawyer. maybe they left themselves some verbal wiggle room. i said this in the last hour. i'm just a cable anchor trying to follow the stories where they go. but it certainly sounds like when they were before the senate judiciary committee that they viewed roe as precedent. and that sounds like if you're not a lawyer something you're not going to touch. we also know that ginni thomas was really psyched about the coup. she said so. she wrote it in e-mails and she tried to get other people to carry out a coup. this is all information readily available to chief justice john roberts. why do you think he does nothing except keep digging? >> well, supreme court is definitely if we

but today, it seems that some speech by the attorney general of the united states, mary kagan, has alsoby the republicans. i mean, they're on such a broad front, they're right off the bat, and they want to investigate, as they say, well, the transformation of uh american justice system into fbi mergers, that's all, they want to bring it to the surface. well, there is one important point, which also needs to be taken into account. you remember very well those 15 rounds of voting, as a result of which they barely managed to make kevin mccarthy the speaker and something tells that, uh, in general, when it comes down to it. e will be too. e, who is in the forest, who is under the firewood, yes, some republicans. eh, they want some do not want. there will be some bidding. well, uh, if we return to the ukrainian story again, at the end of january , such an important financial battle of the republicans will also begin, especially the conservative part of them, these e-libertarian youth sense, former representatives of the tea party. they vehemently oppose raising the united states national deb

i want to thank our staff for their work on it and in particular, mark and avery and kagan who are behind me and senator lee's staff for their work on this as well as senator grassley's staff, over many years on this issue, senator durbin, for allowing us to have this hearing when we don't even have the subcommittees formed yet, so we can get working on this right away. with that the hearing record will remain open for one week until january 31, 2023. thank you very much. hearing is now over and adjourned. [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> c-span is your unfiltered view of government funded by these television companies and more including media.com. >> we believe whether you live here or right here or way out in the middle of anywhere you should have access to fast, reliable internet, th

host: this is from justice kagan: good morning -- caller: good morning. how are you guys? i was curious about this narrative i heard with the national debt, that the ratio is about 1.2 times what our annual income as a country is. that seems to be national debt to the public, which governments expense. we have a law of costs and i agree that we should debate what we are spending this money on. but this perception that this debt is out of control and the republicans keep saying it is 1.2 times the national debt is a bad thing, yet when it comes to personal debt to private interest, it's ok to have a 200 some $5,000 mortgage and still make $54,000 per year. this is crazy talk, to talk about a debt limit when we need to talk about specific issues. when you talk about the popularity of programs that could really go far toward saving a lot of money for the taxpayers, we have 50 million votes from the republicans to repeal and replace, but nobody wants to talk about medicare for all. we spend over $1.5 trillion in private insurance that could go directly toward medical costs and

julian kagan, the education secretary, she'll be representing the uk. at the service today and he willica of said pizza's chapel, which is where pope john paul, chapel, which is where pope john paul , the second was laid before paul, the second was laid before him. his predecessor. and a moment in history for the catholic church as well, because pope francis, the current pope , pope francis, the current pope, will be presiding over this funeral. okay. early thank you very much indeed. well, from westminster cathedral to the former soviet editor for the catholic herald , madeline tehan, catholic herald, madeline tehan, who is joining us now on the line . and tell us, how do you line. and tell us, how do you feel about the funeral today . feel about the funeral today. and you know, i feel obviously a sense of sadness, but i also think it's a really wonderful thing. and as much as i think due to benedict's resignation , due to benedict's resignation, it was quite abrupt, quite shocking and quite painful for some catholics . but i think this some catholics. but i think this is actually an