still with me are karen finny and kai wright, and caroline jamison.had been fond of barry as she calls him, and he was particular way and worked an idea and question and turned it over and looked at it in all sides and then came to a precise and elegant conclusion. right, this idea of -- first of all i cannot, and i have read and the place you will see it is in the communication style, because if you see him answering questions, you will see what some in academic style is a high self-monitor and you hear him hearing himself and in pauses evaluating the next things he is going to say. there are strengths and weaknesses in that. sometimes in the presidency, you can see who could benefit from that more, but the question leads to is that a question of indecisiveness and that is where being a strong leader on foreign policy is a strong image, because it undercuts that. >> and yes, president obama was not a high self-monitor of those things, but president obama is. >> yes. >> and you think about the passage that you read in the context of the decision of wh