and i want to say the kaiser team we work with everyday, we didn't learn anything new because the kaiser team we worked with everyday accurately portrayed the message from the scene -- senior leadership. it's a good thing that there is complete consistency with the team in terms of understanding how kaiser sets our annual premium amount and the process they go through for that. upcoming is a few more meetings. we actually canceled this week's meeting because we didn't have an agenda item. the 11/13 meeting was canceled. we have a meeting on the 12th. i want to say we are not just working on kaiser, we are also working on united health care and you will hear about that dashboard presentations later and we have some issues with the health care city plan and we are working on a solution for that. we are working on the other benefits options for united 13 and kaiser health care. that concludes my report. any other questions? >> questions? dr. dod >> i just wanted to thank commissioner scott for his participation in the meetings. not only do you bring a perspective from kaiser but an employer

and what we have here is an example of a 1948 kaiser which was the first body style that kaiser and frazer came up with. what's brand new is what's sometimes called slab style chicago is a full flat surface on the sides. in post-war years, that was something brand new and fresh. kaiser and frazer were very well received. it was hard to buy new cars because there were so many people wanting to buy them. in addition to that it was a fresh new design. they were only in business for six years but in those six years they told almost, i think, like 900,000 cars in six years. because the demand and because of their fresh, new look. henry j. named in honor of henry j.kaiser, one of the two partners that created the car. 1951, they came out with, again, the henry j. which was one of the beginning compact cars in the automotive industry. it was a very low priced car. and rather primitive in interior design. it surely is something that is stark compared to modern day cars. it was inexpensive. the price tag was $1,499 in 1951. historically, they were bringing out these lower priced cars. there had to

an example of a 1948 kaiser which was the first body style that kaiser and frazer came up with. what's brand-new is what's sometimes called slab styling. which is a full flat surface on the sides. and post war years, that was something brand-new and fresh. kaiser and frazer were very well received. first of all, it was hard to buy new cars because there was so many people wanting to buy them. in addition to that, it was a fresh new design. they were only in business for six years but in that six years they sold almost 900,000 cars in six years. because the demand and because of the fresh new look. henry j. named in honor of henry j. kaiser, one of the two partners that create the company. in 1951, they came out with, again, the henry j., which was one of the beginning compact cars in the ougautomotive indus. it was a very low priced car. rather primitive interior design. surely is something that is stark compared to modern day cars. it was inexpensive. price tag on it was $1,499 in 1951. there had to be a demand out there, but it wasn't the savior of kaiser frazer. i think proba

but it wasn't the savior of kaiser frazier. i think that prably was a reason to do it was to expand their market base so the could apeep to more buyers. what we have here is a precursor of what we now call our suvs. it's a car, but the design of it is such that the full rear section is a hatchback design. and in the rear here, the rear window lifts up and the rear what we would call nowadays a trunk, the rear trunk area opens up. and so you could use it to haul your lumber if you wish when you go camping you could sleep in the back. so it's sort of the same function that suvs now serve to the auto industry. kaiser frazier in 1953 consolidated their operations, left ipsilanti. went to toledo. bought willy's overland in 1953. the actually took some of the keiser dyes and transported them to south america. the manufactured cars like the kaiser cars you'll see here in south america for a period of time before the eventually closed up and ceased operations. back about ten, 12 years ago there was an effort in southeastern michigan to

for example, kaiser profits are $8 billion a year. and high prices, net revenues for california homes increased 11 percent and discharges only increases by 4 percent. the cost are passed onto us in next year's premium. if we don't reform our health care market by having transparency, health insurance will equal 120 percent. we have a chance to address these problems and not shift them to families and i thank you for your leadership. >> next speaker. i want to take a second to recognize the health service board members that have joined us today. thank you all. mr. bradshaw. >> mr. bradshaw. i'm a long time paramedic for the city and county. i pick up one diabetic patient every shift. as a study, i don't no if this would project, but in a study that was done, it shows 30 percent of our -- of what we spend on care for diabetics is wasted on outcomes that were preventable. infections and outcomes and rehospitalization. that's similar. when i get a diabetic patient that ask me, what hospital would you go to, particularly in the regular hos

and what we have here is an example of 1948 kaiser which was the first body style that kaiser and frazier came up with. and post war years first of all it was hard to buy new cars. they were only in business for six years. they sold almost what? $900,000 cars in six years. henry jay one of the two partners that created the company. 1951 they came out with henry jay which was one of the beginning compact cars in the automotive industry. it was a very low priced car and rather primitive in interior design. it surely is something that is stark compared to modern day cars. it was inexpensive. price tag on it was $1,499 in 1951. i think that probably was my reason to do it was to expand their market base. what we have here is precursor of what we now call our zufs. it's a car, but the design of it is such that the whole rear section is a hatch back design. in the rear here, rear window lifts up. and the rear what we would call nowadays, a rung. opens up. and so you could use it to haul your lumber, if you wish, you can sleep in the back when you go camping. it's sort of the same function suvs

blue shield is 37 and kaiser is 35. what that does if you are looking at a demographic factor rating whereas 20 is a 1, 40 is a 2, you will see that the city plan because of their age, their demographic factor applied to the rate is 2.29 versus kaiser which is 1.56 because of the cost in the age. this is a very significant issue. what you also noticed even with that, in spite of the decreasing membership that cost continue to grow year over year 13 percent last year which is above the national trend. moving on to page 5, here what we are looking at is the total cost per member per month, what we are looking at you will see the city active per member cost increased about 7.5 percent from 2008-2013. the drug cost alone increased 100 percent where as the average drug increase is about 15-17 percent and the city plan at about 22 percent -- annual increase of 37 percent or higher. the heche population cost for inpatient and outpatient. that will be if you are looking at your colored chart, the orange and tangerine. i'm not g

as we were discussing kaiser rates and it's great that kaiser is here, it was some question that the care management and other issues were protected and could not be revealed because of trade secrets but i'm wondering on different data like that, would you consider that a trade secret? >> explain to me the data again. what is it? >> so as we were discussing kaiser's rates, there were different issues that i believe kaiser rep said they didn't give and we did receive information from kaiser later, and it's basically -- i think it was called integrated care management and many people were talking about how the rates were going up and kaiser was saying that's trade secrets, i believe. >> i think what i'm mostly here to say is you can claim something is protected by as trade secret, but the only way you find out is if anyone information constitutes a trade secret is try it in court. there are -- it's something that's fact specific and so it's jurisdiction and fact specific, so depending on all the ends and outs of this and how they've used it in the past will make that determination, but

i'm here to give you the kaiser negotiations. i'm here to remind everyone that we have a goal of completing these prenegotiations by descalso we can bring to you what we have discussed at the meeting. this is evaluating the funding structures and alternatives to the i cm. integrated care management fee and the pledge cap for the fully insurance structure and looking at the performance guarantees and also looking to see if there is a possibility of in incentive programs and fee schedule. i'm going update our discussions since our last meeting and that will start on meeting no. 4 on september 12th. we did work looking at historical democratic reports from kaiser and i think i attached late, but it was an attachment and that was waiting for you when you arrived on the demographic reports. these demographic

the kaiser unleashed a balkan war. some historians suggest the kaiser's ridgetime, intend to precipitate a general european conflict. i don't buy that in jewel 1914 i think the germans wantedded their us a trian ally to crush serbia without anybody else getting involved. they saw only a local war. but they were amazingly willing to accept the risk and the general european conflagration would follow. germany was not ruled -- as an -- in which the emperor postured and the generals planned for the premise that war served prussia well with three great victories over austria and france and denmark. they also recognized that democracy, now threatened their control of their own country. it was a socialist majority in the german parliament which was opposed to militarism, and promised to end the kaiser's rule. more than a few politicians and soldiers believed a triumph abroad could halt the advance of the socialist tide. they also made a mistake typical of their age. they underestimated the dominance their country was achievin

welcome to the kaiser report i'm max kaiser you know in a sermon this way pope francis suggested we tie cement shoes to the bank stairs and throw them into the river of course i paraphrase is exact words may have been slightly more nuanced but the gist was the same in my opinion meanwhile in vietnam cock out the former general director of agra bank financial faces the death penalty for embezzling five hundred thirty three billion. that's about twenty five million dollars chopped up for von cock and a half also this week a former us friend of fisher confessed to complaining or committing some horrific deadly money printing sins many more dongs than five hundred thirty billion were embezzled from the american people according to andrew tar who admitted to a gruesome bomb blowing spree that had financially butchered main street america their bloated carcasses fed to the gluttonous money changers and derivative devils on wall street i'm sorry said the repentant quantitative easer. alas andrew the pope was spoken as spoken and he says harrys of london does a nice line of cement shoes the lov

any other questions in supervisor avalos. >> i got stitched up many times at kaiser hospital. my son was born there. >> thank you for being here. >> excuse me. thank you, sir. we'll have public comment in a minute. i want to thank anyone who did come. those speakers, i think, we'll have concluding comments, but we'll open up to public comment. everyone will have two minutes. i have a few speaker cards and there's more.

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. >> i got stitched up many times at kaiser hospital. my son was born there. >> thank you for being here. >> excuse me. thank you, sir. we'll have public comment in a minute. i want to thank anyone who did come. those speakers, i think, we'll have concluding comments, but we'll open up to public comment. everyone will have two minutes. i have a few speaker cards and there's more. larry brad shau and brook. please, anyone want to speak in public comment and everyone will have two minutes to speak. >> is this working? >> sir, sir, the podium will work, go ahead. >> this is -- [inaudible]. stand still is a body. stop it at a good point where it needs to be stem too. [inaudible]. laws and competitions and unless there's market making and market up and down and competitions. point number two, price structure. difficulties allies for price paid for construction. third point, the way and rules for spending in terms of choices. all mutual benefits [inaudible]. one day of opening or one day of closing. one day of promoting and one way of cutting

. >> as we were discussing the kaiser services going on. we brought it to the board level for further discussion and this was some revelation of that data, but kaiser systems wasn't divulgeable because of a gag on ready or a trade system that was being disclosed. it could go from the patients to the health board to the board of supervisors, where do you think is the protected information where people could understand it and it doesn't seem to be protected as a trade secret? >> i think there's different levels of where you can offer that disclosure. certainly in the kaiser instance, at the level at the board of supervisors and hsf in making decisions about what kind of carrier purchasing accident i think transparency is great to help you decide how much you're going to pay. there's ordinances that i have to make sure to insure that the board of supervisors can see that. it's important to realize that there's different claims. something protected by a contract clause that's separate from the trade secret argument. if you're bound by a non dis

the kaiser decorated the senior officers to carry it out. there army committed systematic massacres of all 6,400 civilians about which later. a few historians argue that britain could have stayed neutral in 1914 and prospered mightily by doing so. but the dominating instincts of germany's leader would scarcely have been moderated. it would almost certainly have been the consequence of british neutrality. kaiser's regime did not go to war with a grand plan for world domination. but its leaders quickly identified massive rewards as their price for granting an armistice to the allied. on the ninth of september, 1914, when berlin saw victory limning, germany's chancellor drafted a shopping list. france was to surrender its entire armada deposits, the frontier region of belfort, a coastal strip which was to be resettled by german veterans, the western slopes of the rose mountains, a strategic fortress that would be demolished, and huge cash preparations page. elsewhere luxembourg would be annexed outright. belgium and holland transformed into bat

kaiser welcome to the kaiser report in ireland this past weekend a group of protesters gathered outside the dell with a simple message don't sell us out by forcing us to work abroad in order to achieve the allegedly falling unemployment numbers which have to impress the troika occupiers the irish government has been sending letters to the young unemployed citizens of ireland suggesting that they leave town go overseas scat scram pound sand get out of our statistical sites get down beat get out of here our choice get don't want to see your poor hungry face in our national accounts no mo. oh bugger because we've traded you for some ghost ships of debt from and the collateral call has come in so generation emigration get the freaked out of here you know we don't want you no mo stacy is this true max we were in ireland over the weekend of course we did see the representatives of the go ship of death fraud represented by the troika congratulating ireland for cutting unemployment low and behold though you look down below and you see that the young unemployed have been receiving letters from t

welcome to the kaiser report i'm max kaiser you know in a sermon this way pope francis suggested we tie cement shoes to the bank stairs and throw them into the river of course i paraphrase is exact words may have been slightly more nuanced but the gist was the same in my opinion meanwhile in vietnam cock out the former general director of agra bank financial faces the death penalty for embezzling five hundred thirty three billion dollars. that's about twenty five million dollars chopped up for the bangkok and. also this week a former u.s. fed official confessed to complaining or committing some horrific deadly money printing since many more dongs than five hundred thirty billion were embezzled from the american people according to andrew who are who admitted to a gruesome bond buying spree that had financially butchered main street america their bloated carcasses fed it gluttonous money changers and derivative devils on wall street i'm sorry said the repentant quantitative easer home. alas andrew the pope was spoken has spoken and he says harrys of london does a nice line of cement shoe

all right that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser reply with me max kaiser and stacy herbert i'd like to thank our guests. if you'd like to get in touch tweet us at kaiser report it's a. good lover tour. to build. anything mission to teach me. this is why you should. only. economic down in the final month. and the rest. will be extremely.

what we are doing if you will looking at the 96 per thousand kaiser 464 at the in point at 62.7. if you noticed as i mentioned earlier, the city plan is not that different in age and male female distribution. so you will notice that the factor one is much closer at 93 percent. you would not expect to see much changes. if you notice the average length of stay is at 5.9. there is about 1.75 spread between high and low and the blue line of skilled nursing is the most variable of them all of moving on to the cost per day, what you will notice is the current inpatient cost per day is about 62.43. it's an annual cost of 2.5 years. this is not unexpected and quite reasonable trend for this period of time. moving on to page 23. there is nothing as you look at the graph and you will see it pretty flat. the only thing to draw out here is that the growth is about 1.3 percent. there is a slight growth in er rate of 4.6 percent and surgical cost and yet nothing above trend. lastly looking at the procedures per thousand, again, we have the issue of the other 21,000 of the 33778 are other. and

at this point i'll ask kaiser to come up and thank you for being here and for your continuing to work with the city of san francisco in our service system. >> thank you very much farrel and mar. it's a privilege to be here. we're here to today to lend our support and to affirm our commitment to quality transparency and to price transparency. i am -- i'm the manager here in san francisco for kaiser foundation hospital and health plan and i'm accountable for the care delivered to a little of over $192,000 people. 3,000 healthy san francisco 192,000 people. 3,000 healthy san francisco healthy participant and $3,000 health members and for kaiser california we serve 55,000 city and county employees and a little over 2,000 in san francisco. we value our partner and our relationship with the city and county. and we look forward to collaborating on this effort. for many years, kaiser has been involved in sharing successful clinical practices, quality transparency. we know that by doing that, we get the best clinical outcomes for our patients. for example, if you're a kaiser member in northern

welcome to the kaiser report i am max kaiser remember remember it's yet again the fifth of november and banks there's a con man still rule it's been four hundred years that rebuilding sailed for a rope a rope was the last never held and for this reason trees those plots to look bad indeed it was blankfein the diamond who did these schemes called ponzi contrived to blow the global economy sky high with three quadrillion derivatives lay deep in dark pools that did prove the markets overthrow who want the markets go boom what the economy what are wealth and when the smoke did clear away the tollbooths are here to stay life liberty and the pursuit of happiness speech assembly and association were no longer fricken free all but a dollar a nickel and a dime so remember remember that every fifth of november when we pay warner brothers is compu white till we must drop another penny to the guy they call jamie carney or blight hip hip hooray a penny for the guy stacy herbert yeah roxas the tollbooth economy on the fifth of november the president wants you to get rich on obamacare you being the ba

welcome to the kaiser report imax kaiser the bitcoin barbarians are at the gate nipping at the feet of the command control dollar reservists taunting the bread and circus pushing political clown tyrants mocking the corrupt regulators and party officials who hate any payment system which they can chop up like a lot of cook like a credit card and despise any currency through which they can snort that line of coke yes the big calling barbarians are here and the barbarous relic loving hordes are letting them through the gates because all agree that caesar or whoever is obama is a friggin schmuck. stacey stacey stacey yes the empire scrambling and it's lashing out and people are sick of it people are sick of being taxed to death they're sick of being spied on they're sick of being stolen from by caesar who's desperate and hungry and angry that he's losing his power he's an old man and he's lashing out at everybody and bitcoin is rising dramatically as people find a way to live outside of that system but we're going to start with that crumbling empire of cesar's tweet from james mcintosh he

welcome to the kaiser report imax guys are. the bitcoin barbarians are at the gate nipping at the feet of the command control dollar reservists taunting the bread and circus pushing political clown tyrants mocking the corrupt regulators and party officials who hate any payment system which they can chop up like a lot of cook like a credit card and despise any currency through which they can't snort da line of coke yes the big calling barbarians are here and the barbarous relic loving hordes are letting them through the gates because all agree that caesar or whoever is obama is a friggin schmuck. stacey stacey stacey yes the empire scrambling and it's lashing out and people are sick of it people are sick of being taxed to death they're sick of being spied on they're sick of being stolen from by caesar who's desperate and hungry and angry that he's losing his power he's an old man and he's lashing out at everybody and bitcoin is rising dramatically as people find a way to live outside of that system but we're going to start with

yeah thanks so much that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with me max kaiser and stacy herbert i like to thank our guest cody wilson who is crowdfunding dark while you can still contribute to that campaign the more you give the better it is i guess with your bitcoins if you'd like to get in touch with us tweet us at kaiser report until next time backscatter sign bio. zesty what happened there i don't know but a woman you're killed. appears leaders want to get arrested. for a crime or did not do. we have numerous cases where police officers lie about polygraph results. and people to consider the police officers don't beat people anymore and he just doesn't happen really. in the course of interrogation why because there's been this is like no because the psychological techniques are more effective in obtaining confessions than physical abuse they were taking they could do what they wanted they can say what they wanted and there was no evidence of what they did or what they said. what has that the absolute only acceptable the fragility of a functional system to be ab

imax kaiser welcome to the kaiser reported no the president of the boston. eric rosengren said that. morale improves low rates and bond buying will continue yes the beatings will continue until morale improves so listen up you smelly consumer presence and rotting debt groans because the fed will continue to beat you to a bloody impoverished pulp intil you smile smile like we're all wal-mart greeters have they not been fired last year and spend spend spend like every man's mortgage debt is his castle smile and spend smile and spend repetitious like a japanese sexpot or the abuse in capital destruction will continue the understand i'm saying here the boston fed is saying that they're going to continue the financial beatings until morale improves this is very pulled taught like very dictatorial like states or what is that what's going on here well the saying is the beatings will continue until morale improves is often commanders in the military who say that to their abused soldiers and you see this in the with the central banks is that their command and control

kaiser welcome to the kaiser report in ireland this past weekend a group of protesters gathered outside the dial with a simple message don't sell out by forcing us to work abroad in order to achieve the allegedly falling unemployment numbers which have to impress the troika occupiers the irish government has been sending letters to the young unemployed citizens of ireland suggesting that they leave town go overseas scat scram pound sand get out of our statistical sites get down beat get out of here our choice get don't want to see your poor hungry face in our national accounts no mo. oh bugger because we've traded you for some ghost ships of debt from and the collateral call has come in so generation emigration get the freaked out of here you know we don't want you no mo stacy is this true max we were in ireland over the weekend of course we did see the representatives of the go ship of death fraud represented by the troika congratulating ireland for cutting unemployment low and behold though you look down below and you see that the young unemployed have been receiving letters from the

report thank you thanks max and that's going to do it for this edition of the kaiser report with memax kaiser and stacy herbert i'd like to thank our guests carl gray's the producer of a new film called life on bit coy and of course craig austin crank his wife are traveling around the world living on nothing but going if you like to get in touch with us tweet us a kaiser report until next time x. guys are saying well you know. you know that these volatility of bitcoin is what makes some people extremely excited a. new digital currency and on it people extremely rare coins and that's one of the reasons why i caution people this is a very high risk environment and it's really not ready yet for for your average everyday investor to trust their savings to it and in any way anybody who puts money into the system. i should expect that they could lose all that. oh god is woman. is protects. their rights to do things extremist faction remain thinks. the bus has to be aggressive let's israel keep the man's. face to go. in the future. is going to show we'll in about a technology keeping the m

the kaiser decorated the senior officers to carry it out. there army committed systematic massacres of all 6,400 civilians about which later. a few historians argue that britain could have stayed neutral in 1914 and prospered mightily by doing so. but the dominating instincts of germany's leader would scarcely have been moderated. it would almost certainly have been the consequence of british neutrality. kaiser's regime did not go to war with a grand plan for world domination. but its leaders quickly identified massive rewards as their price for granting an armistice to the allied. on the ninth of september, 1914, when berlin saw victory limning, germany's chancellor drafted a shopping list. france was to surrender its entire armada deposits, the frontier region of belfort, a coastal strip which was to be resettled by german veterans, the western slopes of the rose mountains, a strategic fortress that would be demolished, and huge cash preparations page. elsewhere luxembourg would be annexed outright. belgium and holland transformed into bat

kaiser said closing the hayward unit will offer a higher level of care. the 21 of the 22 nurses that worked here had been re-assigned, one retired. many of them are still upset about the closure. they say they're concerned about the patients who live near here. >> these people are going to be evaluated in the emergency room. they're going to be too sick at that time and try to stabilize them, and then they have to try transporting them to a facility that has pediatric care. that could take from ten two to six to eight hours. >> we recognize the change in location and we know families want the best for their children, and the best care for children is to be treated in a pediatric specialty center such as kaiser oakland, and this is supported by clinicianses at the children's hospitals of oakland, support what we're doing here. reporter: kaiser are outpatient facility here in hayward well rye main open. kaiser says outpatient services make up more than 99% of the care children receive. live in hayward. abc7 news. >>> tonight the university of california has

welcome to the kaiser report i am max kaiser you know apparently it takes one point three million liters of water to make a liter of water that's right the lunar of water that you purchased down there at the shop it requires one point three nine liters of water in the whole process getting the water manufactured in water distributing the water consuming the water to get that one liter of water it's called the economics of suicide yes humans are frickin stupid but even that's not as idiotic as when we try to create one unit of g.d.p. growth get this sense to collapse of lehman brothers some estimate that it has taken eighteen dollars of debt to create one dollar of g.d.p. growth it's called stall speed. so. that's the first article here that we're going to discuss chart form this stall speed of which you speak paul brodsky the fed is holding a burning match the burning match can be seen in these two charts first up the orange line there is total us credit since one thousand nine hundred three you can see that it's divorced from the blue line which is nominal g.d.p. and the gray line at th