and they work with us, and we could put pieces of it that are particular to kaiser pearl nen tay into the cribbing limb, which we appreciated. and they were going to recruit around the san francisco and in the city of san francisco in particular. the experiment was that if we could get people who lived nearby, would we be table reduce that churn and is help develop the community in so many ways by providing jobs, and when we provide jobs there's health care, and other things that we can do a by investing in the community. so, it really was a win, win, win. and we have been happy. think think we are on the fourth cohort of medical assistants and it's working well, and they are very well trained. they not only know the clinical skills, they node the soft skills of the customers serviceings and we teach them about the computer systems, and it's working very, very well. >> kaiser permanente, think people know, has origins in worker health and community health. >> correct. >> i know that value has stuck with kaiser certainly in the bay area. and i am so -- i am wondering in terms of how yo