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at the entrance to hopkins plaza and is sponsored by kaiser permanente who opened the market to raise awareness about eating healthy. >>> well, one last check of the weather for you. and i tell you. just a terrific evening on the way. get out and enjoy. you probably don't need the ac. 87 tomorrow. scattered storm or go in the afternoon. into the 90s we go sunday and monday, even hotter. enjoy it out there tonight. >> thanks, wyatt. that's all for us on abc 2 news at 6. i'm marybeth marsden. thank you for joining us. we'll be back here tonight at 11. we hope you'll join us then. good night. >> thanks for choosing abc 2 news at 6. for more news, watch abc 2 news at 11, or go now to abc2news.com. abc 2 works for you. >>> switch to what works for you. abc 2 news at 11 and marybeth marsden. energy, experience -- >> good evening, i'm marybeth marsden. >> breaking news, fast and first. >> we were the first to bring it to you. >> reports saving you money. keeping you safe. >> lucky enough to land a job, what can you do -- >> marybeth marsden. >> we're the reason more of baltimore is moving be

part of this organization not unlike the way many people sign up and become a member of, say, kaiser permanente geisinger or other delivery systems around the country. that's pobon potential model. >> do we know about whether a model like that can work on a national scale? >> that's the big question. a lot of these things have come about over time, group health has been about since 1947, how you jump-start something that does not exist today becomes a really large question. the other model is really to strip away the health care piece and talk about an insurance co-op, and this gets more along the lines of many offow viewers will know mutual insurance companies which were owned by policy holders. it would be that same kind of model in, where, in essence, the policy owners would hold a policy, wouldn't have to pay a separate higher rate of return to shareholders and investors and would be very strictly regulated and therefore, potentially, cost a lot less than private insurance. >> ceci, how would these plans or other ideas balance out risk -- the cost of ensuring the sick versus ensuring the --

the mayo clinic, the cleveland clinic, gessinger, kaiser permanente.here are health systems around the country that actually have costs that are as much as 20 or 30% lower than the national average and have higher quality. what is it that they're doing differently than other systems? >> reporter: what they're doing is providing excellent care at a low cost through an integrated system where doctor visits, tests, surgeries, hospital care -- the works -- are all done under one roof, but the mayo and cleveland clinics aren't the only integrated health care system getting good outcomes. in a place you might least expect to find it, here in south central montana, the billings clinic is getting similar results. >> at the core of who we are is this multispecialty group practice where all the physicians are really working together for the care of the patient. >> reporter: dr. mark rummings is billing physician in chief. >> we have 240 physicians who believe in this model and we can be successful by showing that we can deliver high quality, safe patient care an

if you are enrolled with kaiser permanente, you have a medical record that you can e-mail to your doctort is dangerous is when your doctor uses your record, make sure that he is using in well and that your personal medical information is protected. the way to do that is with choice and competition. if kaiser is not protecting your information, you can go somewhere else that is. billif the government is holding that information, you have no choice over how it is used, and you do not have the chance to leave when it is being misused. still, the white house says that -- bill: the white house says that they want to avoid repeat procedures and doctor visits. that is a real cost saver. it will save lives. he said -- the handwriting of doctors are poor, and that can lead to some medical mistakes. do you agree? >> yes, but the biggest reason we do not have the electronic records is because of the government. medicare is the biggest purchaser of coverage in the world. if a doctor or hospital tries to develop medical records to reduce error, so that they did not give you the wrong dosage of a drug

radar online the source of all things octo mom is reporting she's back at kaiser permanente in bell flower we don't know why. she's expected to remain in the hospital for at least another 24 to 48 hours. they're saying it's not a big deal. i think anytime somebody is hospitalized overnight is a big deal. it would be very interesting to see what this is all about. we know she had had several procedures and perhaps there were complications. i have no idea. maybe it's the stress of this upcoming two-hour special that's supposed to be polarizing is according to the tv honcho involved. apparently she did not have final signoff on who on the footage. in other words, she doesn't say yeah, take that out. who knows, maybe she got a glimpse of it and said i've got to go to the hospital. >> i wouldn't expect that to come. i have to go to the hospital. >> what -- i guess we'll find out the 19th what is hopolarizi. >> i think her whole lifestyle is polarizing. who should have 14 kids in this day and age when there are millions kids around the world that are dying of malnutrition and this woman goes out

he's also criticized president bush, according to kaiser permanente, for givingen to public opinion anding what cheney described into a tical politician. >>> and finally, it was like christmas in august at best buy on wednesday. did you hear about this? people lined up to buy a 52-inch flat screen tv because it listed on the website for $9.99. the.99. right, sounds great, well, of course a typo of tv real sells for almost $1,800 and best buy said sorry this morning but they're not going to honor the 9.99. >> you get a 52-inch for $10. >> they said, it was on the website. >> people say a lot of things. >> the 1800 price is half price. so it's still -- >> whatever. >> it's on sale. >> it ain't 9.99 that's for sure. thanks a lot of time for the weather, in for the vacationing sam champion, back with us, paul deanno from abc's seattle station, komo. welcome back, paul. >> good rnin to you. big weather story on the east coast, the flooding in north carolina of thunderstorms yesterday, that's common but what's uncommon is this. thunderstorms not moving for four hours and eight inch was rain i

a study released just 90 minutes ago by kaiser permanente found people with borderline personality hasborderline cholesterol, you have a chance of getting alzheimer's later in life. >>> a woman is suing a college because she can't get a job. trina thompson graduated from monroe college in april, with a 2.7 gpa, i might add. since then she's only heard from a couple employers. she wants her $70,000 tuition back, plus $2,000 for job stress. the college said they can't guarantee a job, but they are committed to helping in the job search. >>> 35 minutes past the hour. if we have one idea about the weather today, rainy where? >> good mornging, robin. big time action in chicago, also indiana. action in northern kansas city in the suburbs, stretching into missouri and lower parts of iowa, too. this area is getting slammed right now in parts of ohio. cincinnati, a little further here, you can see the radar picking up thunderstorms in south indianapolis stretching in towards cincinnati. that's what it looks like right there. let's see what it looks like live on that tower cam. it should be dark

i cannot speak to kaiser permanente day, because i am not familiar with their system. of course, the president has brought up a few organizations, like the mayo clinic, who has identified deficiencies and the fact that we need to slow down the cost of medical services. the congressional budget office looked at those provisions and said there was not really much in the bill that would slow down the overall rise in medical expenditures. one of the things that you could do is have people pay a bigger share of their medical costs. no one is proposing increasing copays. that is a nonstarter. host: thank you for being on the program. we are going to take a short break. when we come back, we will be speaking with andrew napolitano. >> this morning, is one flew conference with public health officials, the emergency responders, and industry leaders. as the debate over health care continues, we are interested in your thoughts on the issue, particularly if you are attending a town hall meeting with your member of congress. share your thoughts on video by going online to c-span.or

if you look at systems that have moved away from fee for service, like kaiser-permanente, we publish a study several months ago that looked at what happened when kaiser put in place secure e-mail capability between patients and their physicians, and lots of other interventions, so that you didn't necessarily have to come into see your physician. what happened, visits dropped by 25%. people, it turns out, don't really want to get in the car and drive three hours to go see their doctor if they don't have to, nancy. i think you would concur. so -- but the delivery system has in a way been frozen around the way we pay it. and so as we think of new ways to pay the system, the system will break up these frozen blocks of frigidity and do things like use e-mail and do other kinds of things that will make them possible to have more encounters, if you will, with individual patients and free up some of the capacity to be used to just in the old fashioned visit. >> all right. we have someone at the microphone. if you would identify yourself and let me just ask all of you who come to a microphone

they were not call that in the '60s and '70s like kaiser permanente. no one had the option to keep the care they had been getting before they retired. that thinking was transformed in the 1980's when large parts of the congress became totally enamored with the belief that private enterprise could always do better than the government could in the provision of health insurance or health care. they began pushing a systematic way to shift medicare out of government administration into private insurance hands. they were even talking openly been the 19 90's in the contract with america congress after the 1994 election about privatizing medicare altogether. most of the debate over the last couple of decades has been purely ideological. this has troubled me and tom because we have 30 years of experience with private health insurance plans in the medicare program in fact, their performance, in terms of the quality of care people get and satisfaction, doesn't look dramatically different from the traditional fee-for-service system. we have had this yet you a fact