kaitlyn collins, thank you so much. here with me now, colonel cedrick layton. this has been a moment to rejoice in what has been very difficult circumstances. i want to go deeper into the why now and why the reason they've given. they have said it's for humanitarian grounds because of the mother's health. what does that say to you about this decision to release them? >> well, hostages from hamas' standpoint, are valuable as long as they're alive in good health, and can be bargained for something of interest to hamas. prisoners, conditions on the ground, et cetera. so it was not in hamas' interest to see an american hostage die in captivity. this demonstrates that they are able to deal, but now i think the negotiations will become more difficult and probably more lengthy as we go through this. >> let's tap more into that. why do you think this indicates a way to negotiate now? >> well, i think this is a signal of good faith. and obviously, they are very effective in this intermediary role. they have the able to engage with a wide array of actors in the region. s