prosecutor laura coates and also with us cedric alexander, the former public safety director for de kalb county, georgia. laura, picking up where we just left off. with this witness. the paramedic who responded to the scene, he was driving the ambulance as we learned, was there, helped load george floyd into the ambulance. at the very end there there was some back and forth. so we had heard the defense attorney in his questioning ask him about the crowd because the paramedic mentioned initially they wanted to get mr. floyd into the ambulance and move him to a different area because they saw he was in cardiac arrest and there were a number of things they needed to do to treat him. we've been hearing from the defense, there was this crowd. made it very difficult for the officers on scene to do their job. it was very distracting and it seems like that's what the defense attorney was trying to get at. what did you make of those moments, and the different lines of questioning from both the defense and the prosecution? >> well, you know, it was a very powerful moment and of course trying to ju