. >> well, the big trials, kalid shaikh mohammed, it has been along over the last years. in 2006, when i was the chief prosecutor, when the decision was made to transfer them to the sites in guantanamo, that day 14 men got off the airplane. and there was only one tried and convicted, and that was am ed galani. and that was in new york, and his conviction was upheld by the supreme court. and his case is over and done, and he's serving a life sentence in federal prison. and the other 13 men are still at guan tan most the question of evidence, you're going to have this regardless of the forum. but from my view, with the evidence that i saw, i don't think that it presents a problem, particularly in the case of kalid shaikh mohammed in federal court when he was taken to guantanamo. it's not the question of evidence, but the question of forum, and there are some intent on maintaining the second rate system at guantanamo, that the cases continue to show are totally unnecessary, and they're allowing the victim family members their right to see justice done. >> we're going to take