he said kamal or painting over billboards. come and see. the guy said, oh, your the ones doing it. after that the owner gave them a big discount on their red paint. >> but eventually he was arrested for civil disobedience. >> he was caught red handed. but the owner of the billboard company. one night when they were painting the gang had been held looking for them. he get very mad. they had an argument. somehow red paint cuts by step on his pant leg. he said, i'm going to get you. he went to the police station. the police then filed charges. he was charged with damaging property. and a year later he went on trial for damaging private property. they could have settled for a fine, but he did not want to. he wanted to go on trial and explain why he was doing it. his lawyer used something called the necessity defense. it is a defense sometimes used by civil rights people when they break the law. we had tried to do the right then. we could find no other way, and so we broke the law. that was the defense they used when he went to court. it doesn't always work. it depends on the judge, and

. >> all right -- kamal go ahead. >> yeah, shout-out to "fruit by the foot." [ laughter ] yeah. [ laughter ] you ain't lived until you had these sweet ass beats of fruity treats flattened between your gums, son. [ laughter ] because everybody knows real fruit is disgusting. [ laughter ] get them -- berries out of here, "fruit by the foot" baby. eat six servings a day and pimp your life out -- swag. [ cheers and applause ] >> jimmy: six servings? that -- seems like a lot. that's really crazy. >> yo, jimmy! how come you won't let me go. >> jimmy: what? oh, sorry. it's jen -- it's jen one of our writers. >> yeah. i want to give a shout-out to perfume samples in magazines. i ain't got to buy some expensive bottle -- because "glam" has got my back. if i want a little "eternity" by calvin klein -- to hell with the department store. i just got to turn to page 178, baby! [ laughter ] or maybe i'm in the mood for that new "pink passion." "chance" by chanel. not a problem. let me holler at page 244. [ laughter ] >> jimmy: okay. >> oh, "flora" by gucci. good choice, page 74! >> jimmy: all

chesterfield cigarettes, seagram whiskey, cavelike automobiles kamal of which i using african americansas possible stage consumers for those products. we are so used to thinking about african americans as inserted within the language of advertising, to see that as inconsequential or beside the point. never 04 had there been a publication that had successfully been able to get national marketers to see african-americans as agents of conception. one example of this. chesterfield cigarettes and seagrams was the prior to the advent of ebony magazine if he saw an african-american in advertisements that would present an african american in relation to the product, it would usually be above libor gain glass of whiskey to all white who was supposed to be consuming and buying that whiskey. the message was, of course, african americans were fit to be the conduit for commodities, but never the end point in terms of where the address and appeal needed to get to. there is a great deal of lobbying and surveying of consumer markets and a great deal of making the black consumer market legible to nation

the catch a lot of violent criminals kamal lot of non-arlin criminals, and maybe it -- a lot of violent criminals, a lot of non-ryland criminals, and maybe others that have no record before. -- non-violent criminals, and maybe others that have no record before. it makes sense to be catching people that are breaking the laws. i know some people say, well, these are non-violent criminals. they're not breaking big loss. that is a debate people can have. host: let me read this article, if i may. guest: that is always the canard that people throw out there. they are not reporting people to the system to have reported crimes. they are reporting people in the system that have been jailed. and they are totally wrong about it not doing what it is intended to do. violent criminals in the system are being deported. i think what they mean is that it is doing more than what they think it is intended to do because they think it should only be deporting violent criminals, and not just people more burglarizing your home. -- who are burglarizing your home. that is a classic debate. the news media will b

the catch a lot of violent criminals kamal lot of non-arlin criminals, and maybe it -- a lot of violent criminals, a lot of non-ryland criminals, and maybe others that have no record before. -- non-violent criminals, and maybe others that have no record before. it makes sense to be catching people that are breaking the laws. i know some people say, well, these are non-violent criminals. they're not breaking big loss. that is a debate people can have. host: let me read this article, if i may. guest: that is always the canard that people throw out there. they are not reporting people to the system to have reported crimes. they are reporting people in the system that have been jailed. and they are totally wrong about it not doing what it is intended to do. violent criminals in the system are being deported. i think what they mean is that it is doing more than what they think it is intended to do because they think it should only be deporting violent criminals, and not just people more burglarizing your home. -- who are burglarizing your home. that is a classic debate. the news media will b