well, of course, kamenskikh. the meeting with kamensky became the starting point for his coloring, how he held the map, how he showed up here, and i stood in the barn right here, and i carried my son out. adam but it's theirs. the creative wisdom and audacity that they were able to tell in the architectural language show his story of the lark, which then, like sound, formed the basis of the bell ringing. what difficulties did the father of his colleagues have? when working on the complex , there was great support from peter mironovicharov, who came to the architectural workshop and they consulted, he understood them. this is also, by the way, very important, and the moment we, uh, are talking about the work of architects, but it is always important, and uh , the components of who orders the customer were many nuances, and how they worked to create, and the eternal flame is also a well-known story. eternal flame at that time it was necessary to do hard, following. it was like this a sacred topic, that is, it was n