i was talking to kamil yesterday and it was reviewed in a big pakistani newspaper yesterday.he review was good and it said it was great because there is a movie out there that portrays pakistanis as normal people. it was like wow is this revelatory? >> you asked if i knew him. i don't know him. if he were here i would ask him did he expect that positive review in pakistan given that he is dating outside of his own? >> you would have to ask him that because that is a more complicated question. and i do think that that is the harder thing that i think he encounters with the movie. >> you said a moment ago something i found fascinating. i want to share your hope and optimi optimism. why is holly hunter so hopeful that prejudice might be diminished? >> i don't know. in the universe the details, universe lives in the detail. sometimes i feel like just the interactions like i love living in new york city because i love the interactions with people. i like the minutia of my life, of momentary, tiny pieces of connection with people even if it is on the street or the subway or walking