kamissa camara: i worked with a lot of organizations. and really, and i've said it during my short presentation, is that you have these grassroots women leaders who have nobody to look up to. there is nobody in the government who will actually represent them and who will make sure that their voices are heard or that their interests are served in the government, at the national level, and at the regional level. and maybe because we're talking about the eu here, i wonder how we can talk about women's leadership in africa when the eu has never, ever sent a woman as an international mediator. in africa over the past -- i don't know, i would say over the will don't know, i would say over the past ten years, for example, in west africa, we've had conflicts in liberia, in mali, in sierra leone, and not even once was there a woman who was sent as a mediator. it was only this long-serving presidents. i'm sure there are qualified women out there. so when you said marrying policy and practices, i like it. it's really -- that's the issue. so it's ni