kamla harris is up four points with 11%.here and david axelrod, who worked with president obama years ago. he mentioned biden's poll numbers. he has been durable. but noting that all of the gaffes that biden has had, the question is whether it's because we aren't geared into the race or there's inherent strengths there. what do you think it is, brian? >> people had good feelings when he worked as the vice president to barack obama. one of the problems democrats have him is they don't know how to attack him. many democrats have attacked obamacare and his immigration record. >> is it because people are not listening to the gaffes that he's leading in the polls right now? >> people look at the former vice president and he's still a strong candidate. he makes gaffes. so does president trump. they're looking at him as a strong candidate, somebody who served as vice president in a popular administration. it's ironic that i'm saying these things, the republican. >> you love joe biden. admit it. >> let's talk about the alternatives.

kamla harris in downtown durham. how did this event shape the messaging of her campaign? as set up, through the folks in attendance, this is an administration that is using race. using these rallies to stir up support in the base. the conversation needs to take place in the current democratic primary, as well. i want to let you hear a little of what she said last night. >> there's a phrase that is raised when we start talking about civil rights. when we start talking about issues like race. gender, sexual orientation. and it's what i call the 21st version -- 21st century version of the term we used to hear for so long. that term is the race card. the new term is identity politics. >> what kamla harris says is when the president talks about these issues and what they call identity politics, it's important for the democrats to talk about the disproportionate rate of black student loan debt. homeownership by race. the mortality rate of mothers during childbirth. those are issues that have to be discussed and brought forward and have to be addressed. she said, when we are talk

more 2020 presidential candidates including bernie sanders, kamla harris and julian castro who last monthntroduced the own plan to bolster indigenous rights are appearing in the forum today. the standing rock sioux tribe asked a federal court in washington, d.c. friday to halt operations of the dakota access pipeline until a full environmental assessment is completed. the army corps of e engineers issued an easement in 2017 allowing for the construction of dapl despite widespread protested that garnered international support. the court found the easement violated the law and remanded the issue back to the army corps which the sioux tribe said conducted a sham process in order to go ahead with construction. meanwhile the company behind the pipeline dakota access llc owned by energy transfer partner is planning to expand the operations doubling the amount of oil it transports from 570,000 to 1.1 million barrels per day. the standing rock sioux tribe is calling on the officials to hold a public hearing and properly evaluate the risk of the e pipeline expansision to t tribe and enenvironment.

senator kamla harris. amy klobuchar. senator elizabeth warren and senator cory booker. starting thursday on c-span. watch any time online at c-span .org or listen live from wherever you are on the go using the free c-span radio app. >> next, a senate hearing on congressional accountability and whether term limits should enacted. another chance to see q & a when saudi arabia women's -al-sharif ist mala talks about her book "daring to drive". now the senate judiciary committee held this hearing on term limits and whether they are effective, especially when dealing with a lack of

really, that's the focus of kamla harris, cory booker, senator warren, saying it's incumbent on the republicanbacked the mansion-toomey legislation that would extend background checks to gun shows. i asked chuck grassley if he would support such legislation. he paused for six seconds before he said, it depends on what universal means. we should expect the democrats to continue to press that issue in the next few weeks before congress returns to capitol hill. >> it was one of the more pregnant pauses. vaughn hillyiard. there's been talk about a climate debate? gun policy in recent weeks has come to the fore. it's something the candidates are talking about and unifying behind. your reaction that this is something and novel? >> it's new but related in part to what happened in parkland. what people are missing, when a mass shooting is in the news and it dissipates, you're forgetting those folks connected with others and they made an intersectional youth movement. coupled with moms demand action and every town. that's -- moms demand is a part of every town. you're building a movement that can put p