kamran bokhari, director at _ terrorism. kamran bokhari, director at the _ terrorism.ewsline 's l director at the newsline �*s institute in washington. more now on the day's events at kabul airport, where american forces fired into the air to disperse crowds attempting to force their way onto departing planes. several people are reported to have been killed. american and british troops are engaged in evacuating their citizens, while the international community tries to define its response to the taliban's lightning—speed victory. here's our afghanistan correspondent, secunder kermani. running for their lives, frantically trying to escape afghanistan on this us military plane. this is how desperate some afghans are to leave the country. a handful tragically clinging on even after take—off, before falling to their deaths. foreign nationals — and some afghans — are being evacuated, but huge crowds gathered after rumours even those without visas could travel. gunfire. outside the airport, even more chaos. taliban members firing in the air to assert their authority, trying

for more reaction to president biden�*s speech, i've been speaking to kamran bokhari, director of analytical at the newlines institute in washington. i began by asking him whether he thinks the president will regret his actions. if we look back at what happened in iraq, we pulled forces out when president biden was vice president in 2011, only to go back three years later, not at the same scale, but with 5,000 or so troops to fight isis. that may happen down the road in afghanistan because this country is far more shattered than iraq is. iraq at least has a state even if it is weak, and under the influence of the iranians. but here, we have anarchy as demonstrated by the utter collapse of the state. america's top military general already made comments that the return of the taliban and afghanistan could accelerate the potential threat from islamist terror groups. how worried are you? i am worried because it's notjust afghanistan, it's pakistan next door as well, which has a huge extremist current within society. the afghan taliban enjoys strategic depth, there are transnational jihadists ins

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