they were not part of the kandahar shura. i recall in the state department our negotiations with the former foreign minister who was one of those interlocutors now, and when we tried to get him come and, sorry, the qatar shura who have come to some agreement on the yielding of osama bin laden. many of those pushing hard for it to clock him i believe are using the western concepts of political sentiment where what you do is you trade ministerial positions, a provincial appointment and constitutional revisions. the taliban have long indicated that sustain for the constitutional system and for the current leadership. they do not practice collision. andy and i submit they are true believers. at least the top leadership. therefore they have limited political ideological ambitions. and that these will, when they prevail, he demonstrated. but the taliban has always stressed from the very beginning that it's an islamic movement, that transcends ethnic divisions. by the late 1990s they had made the transformation from those simply wan