ed kangas has now been on this issue nearly 15 years. having chaired our cochaired -- or code shared in at least 3 iterations. he has become the poster child for cd's campaign finance reform work. he introduced the term "" pure our efforts some years ago. -- the term "shakedown." landon rowland, who for many years has served as the chairman, now chairman emeritus , of janus capital group, he spent all longtime as trustee and became involved in our work on judicial selection reform,, particularly focusing on his own state's misery, but also flying around the country with sandra day o'connor and others really trying to explain what is going on in the 40 states that elect judges and allowing those campaigns contributions to come from people who have interests before those judges. landon rowland has been a poster boy for our work on judicial selection reform crown the country. as i said before, when we decided to respond to citizens united by combining our work in campaign finance reform and judicial reform, it made natural ed and landon to

. >> kangas is still on call. >> you want to join us. there is a chair. still have a few opening remarks. we are open to questions from you, the most important questions because we hear -- we're here to address your questions. we will allow time for that. if you want to throw a hand up or come to the mike feel free to engage in the conversation. i will do some introductions. barbara bonfiglio is senior corporate counsel adviser specializing in federal and state election law and provide counsel on matters of the senate ethics rules which could be a really interesting subject to get into. and the author of how to cross the potomac without falling in. second from the end we have the vice president of state government affairs policy at merck and co.. he manage responsibility for state government affairs in the washington office on federal health care policy. he is a member of merck's corporate responsibility council and the leader of activities in the area of public policy advocacy. on the far end, tony kavanagh, vice president of government affairs at americ

kangas mentioned. matching funds. small contributions. the internet has enormous potential bringing vast numbers of citizens and providing some balance to all of the big money over the wealthier money. .. >> you can't depend on it and you certainly can't be sure that everything is going to come out. so with all due respect to the future of a world of wikipedia, we will continue to press until we get legislation that requires any entity that wants to make independent expenditures to disclose who's putting up the money. that is just a cardinal rule. it's the basic rule when you start looking at the role of the money in politics. citizens have a right to know, and this extremely conservative on campaign finance issues, supreme court, recognize without having any problem at all. >> just another point. i'm on the board of something called global organization parliamentarian's against corruption, a canadian organization but it's now a number of countries that have chapters. it's picking up a lot of steam. people around the world realize this is