and the turnovers will end a valiant effort forever kansas state. and the oklahoma state defense proves to be the key elements. and then not even just staying in game but coming up with a big win at home. >> rob: the third quarter, the ho offense had 23 yards of offense. the oklahoma state offense managed to keep them close. >> bob: j.w. walsh makes it official. and oklahoma state survived at home against kansas state. and two smart admirable coaches and two teams that played awfully hard. >> quint: coach, a game that featured seven lead changes. what ultimately made the difference? >> obviously, our defense at the end really rose to the occasion. we've been in these situations before and not got a stop. we had turnovers. our defense forced turnovers. we recovered in our kicking game. our kicker did a nice job after a terrible week last week. >> quint: why were you able to force second half five turnovers? >> well, i think we disguised our coverages. i think we were getting a little pressure there at the end. but for the most part, looked like we had

worst yet uses a kansas state form and not a federal one, they are considered suspended and will not vote in any election. kansas secretary of state kris kobach defends is saying they don't have the authority to determine what to do in elections. other states are following suit. on monday arizona's attorney general tom horn preemptively made the case for what he describes as federal election only ballots. those registering only with the federal form which does not include evidence of citizenship should not vote in state elections. >>> after the break, it is one of the darkest and most defining periods in history and slavery and slave history are largely empty of the cute. screen writer john ridley joins us next on "now." if you're living with moderate to severe crohn's disease, and it feels like your life revolves around your symptoms, ask your gastroenterologist about humira adalimumab. humira has been proven to work for adults who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn's disease. in clinical studies, the majority of patients on hu

drama came to an end today when the kansas supreme court finally took away his license to practice law. they took his license and he was the attorney general of that state. the real drama in this case has always been that this phil klein event has been taking place against the backdrop of just incredible violence in kansas. in 1993, this woman walked up to a kansas doctor and she shot him. shot him through both of his arms. he had been attacked before. his clinic had been fire bombeded, but in 1993. they shot him. he came back to work the next day bandaged up. he said he thought it was important to show his face, that he would not be intimidated. the woman who shot him went to prison for shooting him in 1993, but the radical movement saw her as a hero for having shot him. while in prison, she got more than two dozen visits from this guy. scott roeder. he told a writer it was during those visits, that he started to think maybe he should be the guy to finish off what he had started. shelley shannon tried to kill dr. tiller, but scott roeder decided he should be the one to finish the job and in may 2009, he stalked dr. tiller at his church on a sunday morn

kansas. her heavy handed government mandates on insurance chased several companies out of the state.t tens of thousands of kansans without insurance. you know, she also provided -- single handedly cut -- single handedly provided cover for the most prolific mass murderer in the kansas state history, that being george tiller, the third trimester abortionist. >> a very controversial topic. >> everything about her -- >> we're going to hear more from her -- >> he knew all this before he voted for her. >> sorry to cut you off. we're tight on time. she's going to be testifying just 48 hours from now. so we will wait to hear how that goes. great to meet you, dr. wolf. >> i'll tell you, you can tune into our website at miltonwolf.com. i'm not here to send a career politician a message. i'm here to send a career politician home. your viewers can contribute, can get on our website, they can help us get this job done. >> you may be a doctor, but you're a good politician already. you know how to talk. thanks so much, doctor. >>> new developments in the sensational murder trial. what a mistress na

joining me now, the kansas secretary of state. good to see you. you found out this woman who you believe trespassed on your property is now one of the so-called navigators helping people sign up for obama care. what did she do at your house? >> it was her and four bus loads of her friends who were doing more than just trespassing. they were attempting to intimidate a public official. care if they protest at my office. it crosses a line when you are at someone's house and attempt to intimidate them to take a different policy position. thank goodness my wife and my kids and i weren't home. that would have terrified them. the idea that now someone whoen gauged in that kind of thug tactic in american politics is getting taxpayer money to implement obama care is crazy. >> she is. apparently she's -- her name is veronica my i ran da. she's an obama care navigator. they are paid tens of millions of dollars in federal funding to help guide obama care enrollees through the process. they potentially have access to social security numbers and private health

you played an is satirical statement about her state, kansas, and "the wizard of oz." >>> and some came away saying they did not believe her representation that they'll fix everything by november. >> her admission, how many people signed up? i don't know. how many people have been on the phone? i don't know. how many are the counts, i don't know. we have no way of knowing what she has told us is true yet the president of the united states are making claims that millions have called in. it's an admission that the system is not working and it won't be working any time soon. >> he thinks that secretary sebelius should resign or be fired. >> the democrats were somewhat kinder. what were they saying about kathleen sebelius and her testimony? >> reporter: in a nutshell they were helping to make the case that the affordable care act, notwithstanding the problem, is beginning to work. they pointed out states where there are, indeed, those exchanges that have been set up where people are getting online. they are getting insurance. here is it representative butterfield from north carolina. >> my

. >> and having been a state legislator, and i know as governor in kansas, i assume every state has some type of minimum mandated benefits that they have for their health insurance plans. >> they do, but it applies again, sir, in the past usually to the group markets where 90% of covered americans get their policies. this market has always been the wild west. >> so if americans get letters from their companies about cancellations, they're eligible to purchase on the exchange? >> or out of the exchange. individuals who aren't interested in financial help they can go outside the exchange, inside the exchange, their insurer can offer them plans. they have choices they have never had before. >> and because of the benefits of the affordable care act, 80% of their premium dollar will come back to them. >> that's correct. >> and that's not true -- i know it's not true in texas, but i don't know any states that have that 80% requirement. >> no state had it, i would suggest, in that broad base prior to the affordable care act. >> let me give you an example of one of the plans i found out during c

we also reported earlier this week there was a navigator in kansas, the same state, who had a warrants out for her arrest in addition to other shows, and illegal immigrants being navigators and former acorn members being navigators. >> i have report that form are acorn people are now navigators. union groups are supplying navigators. ralph anyway -- nadar ground providing navigators. they all shut they're mostly from left. that's the navigator population so to speak. >> that's exactly right, a lot of it is, because the central -- the groups that are mostly getting brought on to become these navigators involve community organization groups and unions, and both of those sectors are predominantly left wing, and as a result you have people sitting there, dealing with personal information, and remember, as they're interacting with the government, they're given this option like, hey, now that you're enter acting with us, would you like to register to vote, and that is wrapped into this and definitely a concern, certainly from conservatives who view this as way to build the base for the presi

my college football pick of the day, kansas state wildcats going to get back on track and beet bate the that was embarrassing -- "washington post's" jackie kucinich. glad i get to stop talking now. buzz mckay. thanks for joining us. stay tuned. we'll be back tomorrow at 8:00 a.m. eastern time. stick around. he l he me lis is a harris perry is up next. congress will gavel in for another special saturday session. melissa will try to make sense of the shutdown. "nerdland" is next. customer erin swenson ordered shoes from us online but they didn't fit. customer's not happy, i'm not happy. sales go down, i'm not happy. merch comes back, i'm not happy. use ups. they make returns easy. unhappy customer becomes happy customer. then, repeat customer. easy returns, i'm happy. repeat customers, i'm happy. sales go up, i'm happy. i ordered another pair. i'm happy. (both) i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. happy happy. i love logistics. faster than kenny can dodge a question. honey, how'd that test go? [ female announcer ] in just 60 seconds, you've got snack defying, satisfying mmm.

because she was the insurance commissioner of the state of kansas. so she has some expertise in insurance matters, and her job over these past four years has been to put in place the policy, the rules, the regulations, all of the wording as it were. the website work was really left to another unit of health and human services, medicare and medicaid. they were the ones in charge of securing the contractor to build the website. so she wasn't so hands on as with respect to the that. and the white house knows that as well. the president has been very pleased with how the secretary has built the structure for the affordable care act. and this is obviously a problem so if you have had someone who has been successful four times but bobble the ball once, do you toss them out because of that one mistake even though it is a glaring error. and the opinion seems to be that mr. obama would not do that. >> right now secretary sebelius is listening to henry waxman who likely is giving her praise. although there is bipartisan it seems anger that he website has not r

in states like new york, that 10 percent would amount to $52 billion. florida and kansas. ese two states, $20 billion in new taxes by 2022. don't tell that to the left of the new york times. there goal is to transform our health care system and make it government-run health care. an idea weighed down by facts. unfortunately for the obama administration the american people not buying it. the obama administration says that on obamacare for stay of a format million people visited health care. the federally run in exchange the serves residents of more than 30 states. according to the london daily mail, nearly 1 percent of visitors actually signed up. the figure may even be a little high. 7 million people uninsured. let's take a lk and some of these dismal statistics here. 7 million uninsured in california. california first reported an impressive 5 million people in the first day. that was of little optimistic. it turns up the real number, the counter did not even work. six other 45,000 people -- the new greek phrase that. those are hits. we don't know what they're really amount

i'm watching that kansas race -- >> kansas is an interesting state, we think of kansas as a red -- a a historical split in that state, there say moderate wing of the republican party and the sam brownback wing and that's the theory, if you talk to democrats about how to beat brownback, they think they can peel off potentially disaffected moderate republicans. >> i think the democrat that is ahead of brownback, i think he was a former republican. so, yeah, you start to see that. >> but the question then comes back to again, you look at these election results, if the tea party can be blamed for losing virginia, if it can be blamed for losing a state like kansas, still i think you'll have as we say the ted cruz out there saying, well, no, that's not a real tea party candidate. we'll show you a real tea party candidate and then the base wants to hear that, it is a never-ending problem. i thank robert george of the new york post, the most overused suffix in american politics and scandals in general, that's after this. [ both cheer ] got it! i...did not get it. [ female announcer ] you may

sebelius: that is correct. >> having been a state legislature and as governor in kansas, i'm sure every state has minimum mandated benefits they have to have with their health plan. sebelius: they do. it applies again, sir, to the group market where 90% of covered americans get their policies. this market has always been the wild west. >> americans received those letters about cancellations. they are eligible to purchase plans on exchange? sebelius: or out of the exchange. they can go outside the exchange, inside the exchange. their insurers can offer them plans. they have choices they'v it nevd before. >> 80% of their premium dollars will come back. >sebelius: that's true. >> note is not in texas, but i don't know any state that has 80% requirement. sebelius: no state has it, i would suggest, not broad base before the affordable care act. >> let me give an example of a case worker, providing $25,000 maximum benefit for their employees. most employees didn't know it. until one constituents found out she had cancer. the bill ended up being $300,000. and so that's some of those plans that

>> madam secretary, while you're from kansas -- >> you were governor and state insurance commissioner in kansas. >> which is also the site of an iconic american film. >> there is a famous movie called "the wizard of oz." >> some may say we are actually in the wizard of oz land. >> that land you speak of, sir, is called oz. but kathleen sebelius was not actually born in congress, which means she could not have run into the 90-year-old texas congressman hall. >> were you born in mead, kansas? >> i was not, i was born in cincinnati, ohio. >> i was in third grade there and thought i saw you on a tricycle. >> who was on that bike? we may never know, so the republicans moved on. >> do you agree with this kind of advertising for obama care? >> i can't see it? >> it is a college student doing a keg stand, do you approve of this kind of advertising? >> i don't see it -- >> that is a pretty big picture of a keg. >> marsha blackburn took a pro stance, channelling the cry to reform the health. >> some people like to drink out of a red cup, not a crystal stem. >> stepping in to carry the torch for

you were governor and state insurance commissioner in kansas, and i reached out to our state insurance commissioner and governor and found out that they have absolutely no data about nebraskaens who have either tried to enroll or enroll. as you know, nebraska's one of the states that opted not to do their own exchange and rely on the federal exchange. so it's interesting to me that neither our insurance commissioner, nor the governor's office, had any data about nebraskans and this -- enrolling in these plans. i also asked our insurance commissioner if any of the navigators, if they knew who the navigators were and whether they had to apply to be certified or licensed, in essence, like an insurance agent would be. and they told me they have no clue who's been authorized by hhs to be a navigator and work with people in nebraska. so this is concerning to me, so i'm going to ask you a few questions along this line. first of all, do you have data on how many people in general in the united states have tried to enroll in a plan through this website? >> no, sir. we do not have any reliable d

speaker, i'd like to recognize my good friend and colleague from the great state of kansas, mr. yoder, for as much time as he may consume. mr. yoder: while i appreciate my friend from illinois to put this hour together, have a conversation about how we protect the american farmer. for months and months now, we've been having a debate in the united states house and senate about how we can put together legislation that will ensure that the men and women who bring in the crops, who tend to the live stock, who create the -- livestock, who create the food for the nation and the world, have certain policies that are predictable and encourage farming as a way of life in the united states. so i join my colleagues here, those from down in southern illinois -- we heard from dan benishek from michigan who believes passionately in agriculture and protecting farmers. we're here together today united, standing on behalf of farmers and ranchers in our community. i call on members to get a farm bill done. farmers have been waiting to get something done. we have been divided on a lot of things,

. >> going to kansas, a law maker is pushing for obama care navigators for background checks. republican state senator citing reports that a kansas navigator had an outstanding arrest warrant for a unpaid arrest warrant. they do background checks and only for felonies and person-to-person crimes. the state senator said it is not enough. >> meanwhile kathleen sebillous. and shedding light on how her agency spends tax dollars on a conference. the conferences in 2012, covering 135 of them. and averaging 416,000 per event. and head start research conference in the grand hya tt said to cost $1 million. and context right now. money spent by health and human secretary exceeds what the irs blew on conferences in 2010 and 2012 over three years including the training parody that we all watched. >>> fox news alert on a manhunt for two convicted killers. they had been sentenced to life and the search underway as authorities are scrambling to make sure no other inmates were mistakenly freed. >>> another alert for you now. disturbing video from the mall attack in kenya. the footage captures the attackers hu

at this point, i yield to my good friend from the great state of kansas, representative pompeo. mr. pompeo: thank you for yielding. i appreciate the time. i imagine, ms. jenkins, you're hearing some of the same things i am as you return to kansas and talk to our constituents. this is serious business. we're standing here tonight with a partial government shutdown. and i don't think anybody thinks that's the best outcome for america. i think we all want america's essential, vital services and systems to be functioning, to be up and running. obamacare, that we're ta hs. i find that language offensive and i find it inaccurate. it doesn't represent what we're trying to do. we're not taking hostages. what we're trying to do is take account of what our constituents are telling us. i want to talk about that just a little bit. you know, i tried to get online yesterday myself to enroll in the affordable care act. i was met with a bit of a blank screen and long pause. i did get through to the 1-0-phone -- get through the that 800 phone number was given on the screen. i was told about an hour

. >> and having been a state legislator and i know as governor in kansas, i assume every state has some type of minimum mandated benefits that they have for their health insurance plans. >> they do, but it applies, again, sir, in the past usually to the group markets, where 90% of covered americans get their policies. this market has always been the wild west. >> the americans received those letters from their companies about cancellations, they are eligible to purchase plans on the exchange? >> or out of the exchange. individuals who don't -- aren't interested in some kind of financial help can go outside the exchange, inside the exchange. their insurer can offer them plans. they have choices they've never had before. >> because of the benefits of theca affordable care act, 80% their premium dollar will come back to them? >> that's correct. >> i don't know any states that have that 80% requirement. >> no state had it, i would suggest, in that kind of broad base prior to the affordable care act, so it's -- >> let me give you an example of one of the plans i found out during case work, a

guest: kansas is actually the very last state to put in place the congressional map in 2012 because even though republicans controlled all levels in kansas, they disagreed amongst themselves over exactly how to draw the states congressional districts. faction in the republican party of the conservatives who dislike the moderates. that has really driven a lot of the rancor in her district in there. there are residency issues that come with redistricting in gerrymandering. in many states you have requirements that state legislators have to live in the districtand vote the they represent. if you have partisan gerrymandering, that removes an incumbent from their district and essentially forces them to move or in some cases to take up sham residences. in one case in california, we have a multimillionaire state senator who has purchased a one bedroom apartment without a dishwasher in a neighboring town so she can continue to represent the state senate district where she was elected. we see this from state to state. interesting fact about the last 10 years and this has been driven by gerrymande

most of the homes in the kansas city star village are either undecided the street or on that side of the street. it is somewhat ironic because this is on a state line. i am now in kansas city, missouri. if i walk across over here, i am still in kansas city, it is kansas city, kansas. inside this special phone, a startup with eye-opening elements. this is uranium. we are assured the amount is safe. it is the latest startup to stay in this house for three months, rent-free, through an ongoing program. access to blazing fast google fiber speeds. one hacker recent greeted the curious fbi agent at their door. >> i told him, by the way, i have some uranium front. his reaction was like, oh no! i wish you had not only that. i was like, no, it is cool. we got it off of amazon. it is cool. we promise we did not break any laws. >> it is not a group of undisciplined hackers read they go to bed by 10:00 p.m. and are up by 6:00 in the morning to do what is called the insanity workout. these hackers even follow a strictly meets investable side. >> i've lost almost 50 pounds since i got here. >> how about yourself? >> i've lost almost 60 pounds good when i fi

you were governor and state insurance commissioner in kansas. and i reached out to our state insurance commissioner and governor and found out that they have absolutely no data about nebraskians who have tried to enroll or enrolled. as you know, nebraska is one of the states that opted not to do their own exchange and rely on the federal exchange. so it's interesting to me that neither our insurance commissioner nor the governor's office had any data about nebraskians and this -- this -- enrolling in these plans. i also asked our insurance commissioner if any of the navigators, if they knew who the navigators were and whether they had to apply to be certified or licensed, in essence like an insurance agent would be. and they told me they have no clue who has been authorized by hhs to be a navigator and work with people in nebraska. so this is concerning to me. so i'm going to ask you a few questions along this line. first of all, do you have data on how many people in general in the united states have tried to enroll in a plan through this websit

his secretary of health and human services is the former insurance commissioner for the state of kansas. >> right. >> and just so your audience knows, the individual health insurance market is one of the most regulated markets in the united states. on average, each state has 50 mandates. mandates like maternity coverage or in vitro fertilization or chiropractic care. this is a marketplace that's filled with state mandates. rick perry's texas, supposedly, i guess the most pro-business state in the country, mandates 62 things in their individual health insurance plans. this is an incredibly regulated market. and the president said in boston, two things that just blew my mind. the first thing he said, it's substandard coverage. substandard coverage with all this regulation, all these m manda mandates. number two, he called insurance companies bad an apples for issuing these policies. he had the leadership, his staff did in the white house, issued a statement saying this was going to be a partnership to implement the affordable care act. is this the way he treats his partners? >> unbelievab

hour, we have been following the story of a terrible school bus accident that's happened in the state of kansas. the place is douglass, kansas, which is east and south of wichita. they have a big map of it on the wall now. a school bus is going over a roadway with a small bridge there. they are had torrential rains for the last couple of days. it was very difficult. had some live pictures coming into us now. these are keke television: they were trying to get this bus. kind of got washed off the road and on to its side. for more than an hour, according to the sheriff's department, there were 10 children trapped on top of this bus as we waited to effect a water rescue in this area. and there's the live picture of the bus. we have been watching this for the past two hours and this is the first we have seen of it. it's a little bit shaky. exclusive video coming from n. from kake television. the kids were on that bus and the driver was trapped underneath and now i can kind of see how that happened. the water is just rushing through there. these kids were trapped for more than an hour. it's our under

ask my questions, we have a former member of the committee on the democrat side from the great state of kansas in the audience. we are glad to have you. madam secretary, we are glad to have you too. >> thank you, sir. >> there is a movie called the wizard of oz and there is a great line. dorothy at some point in the movie turns to her dog, to to and said we are not in kansas anymore. madam secretary, while you are from kansas, we are not in kansas anymore. some might say we are in the wizard of oz land given the parallel universes we appear to be in. they think things are great. you did apologize and said it's a debacle, you seem to think the affordable care act is great. myself and others have a different view. ultimately the american people will decide. last week when the contractors were here, i focused my intention on the apparent lack of privacy in the website. if we put up the first slide that i had last week. this is what is public. it is basically a disclaimer that says that any unauthorized attempt to upload or change information on the website is prohibited. it doesn't say anything a

kansas isn't important. let's remember it is only one of 50 states.aller states buy population, 32 states have more people than kansas. california has 13 times more people than kansas. but because health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius is from kansas or more accurately married her way into kansas, some members of the house of representatives seem to believe that the secretary's kansas connection explained a lot about at fothe affordable c act. 90-year-old congressman ralph hall thought he saw kathleen sebelius on a tricycle when he was in the third grade. never mind that kathleen sebelius was at least 18 years away from being born when ralph hall was in the third grade. i guess we are to assume that ralph hall was joking, but it is never easy to tell when a 90-year-old congressman is joking. and ralph hall seems to get that. because, he usually labels his jokes a joke. >> there has been 197 million dollars obligated. and that is -- to last through march of 2014. and as i said before about 104 million dollars has expended. >> i will try

insight into the political fight she's in in washington and in her home state. >> in her home state of kansasust coming in to cnn, an obama care contractor says a last-minute change caused the problems, a lot of the problems with the health care website. let's get some insight from clay johnson. he's the ceo of a firm called the department of better technology, a former member of the obama technology team. clay, thanks very much for coming in. >> great to be here. thanks for having me. >> this contractor says one of the problems was a late decision to force people to actually register, put all sorts of information in before they could go around and do some shopping, window shopping as it's called for possible programs, possible packages, and this last-minute changed caused this blunder in effect to happen. what do you make of that? >> well, i think it's yet again evidence that the department of health and human services secretary picked the wrong set of vendors to work on a project like this. i think any small business that's done professional services and technology as these two having clien

kansas. was the state's insurance commissioner. first daughter of a former u.s.ernor to be elected governor herself. later this hour we'll talk to congressman of bill johnson. he wants kathleen sebelius fired today. the congressman is coming up in a matter of minutes. we're on twitter. last hour it was the whole thing in colorado, trying to get young people to sign up for the health care law. martha: she may be wishing she was still in kansas these days but she is not anymore. it is a whole different ballgame. let us know what you think about that. bill: you got it. meantime there are details in the deadly terror attack in benghazi. we're learning some of the suspects behind the ambush include jihadists with ties to senior members of al qaeda. our chief intelligence correspondent catherine herridge live on that in washington. who are these suspects? >> reporter: thank you, bill, good morning. fbi is searching for five suspectses to the benghazi terrorist attack and fox news has learned one suspect is believed to be a one-time courier for the al qaeda senior leade

united states wins it again 18 1/2 to 15 1/2. kansas with the chase for the cup. danica patrick fishtailing into the wall. she goes. her day's done. kyle busch, vickers. that would end kyle's day. harvick takes the checkered flag. he's third in the cup standing between kensic and jimmy johnson. ravens' wrap-up shortly on the way. plus a final check of the forecast right after this.

you have kentucky, kansas, michigan state. >> talk about the junior college kid. what's his name?point guard? >> yeah. come on, rick. >> already breaking down the season. he's ready to go. >>. >> he's done good. >> coach. you have coached at every level there is to coach. nba division one. how different is the college game now for you to coach when you know if you have the best kid in the country as you often do you have him for one, two years maybe. you have the to approach the program differently. >> we are different than football. football and baseball have the right system. >> yeah. the nba doesn't want high school kids anymore. they want kids more emotionally mature. the veterans could hang around longer. the colleges really don't want one and done. it's basically a seven-month education. so we are almost polar opposites now with what we are trying to do. >> here's the sport, willie. i'm a huge kentucky fan. my parents both went oh u.k. we love you even though you are wearing the wrong color. a couple of years ago they had an amazing team. they have a kid in there for the sev

the woman who is behind the controls of obamacare was unable to convince even one person from kansas, the state she used to govern, to sign up for it. though h.h.s., secretary kathleen sebelius is the former governor of kansas, representative tim huelskamp was informed by an insurance provider in his home state that none of the 365,000 uninsured people living there successfully signed up for insurance on the obamacare exchange on the first day. now, in the midst of all the chaos, all of the broken promises where people have lost their insurance, they have lost the coverage they had even when they keep their insurance, insurance prices have spiked for the vast majority of americans in this country. they did not get the $2,500 cheaper insurance the president promised. they either lost their insurance all together or it spiked dramatically. they didn't get to keep the doctor. we're hearing from those people constantly. and at the same time, when here in the house, we have centcom proposal myself after compromise before the shutdown occurred, down to the senate, which normally in a functioning sena

protesters stormed the home of kansas secretary of state over the secretary of state's immigr.f state joins us now. when did you find out that this navigator is one of these people who showed up at your house with this mob? >> just a few days ago. a reporter did digging and compared photos and realized it was the same person. >> that is unbelievable. here is a statement from the navigation program. each navigator goes through a criminal background check completed by a national company who specialize necessary this. they do not collect or store personal health or financial information. does that make you rest easy? >> no because no charges have been filed about this incident that occurred a few months ago on our property. these individuals crossed the line and were trespassing on private property. there's potential crime of intimidating a public official. they were littering. there are all kinds of things they did they haven't been charged with. talking about someone agitating to press a public official to change his position. that's something that is not healthy for a republica