and obviously there was great work over the "new york times" with jodi kantor and -- >> megan twohey.rker." you guys had tried to write about harvey in the past -- >> 14, 15 years ago. >> seth: yeah. >> ken auletta, a terrific reporter, took a run at harvey weinstein and was doing a profile of him. and you know, the profile was not exactly kind. he came out looking like somebody that's extremely talented, but a bully. a bully to everyone, people in business, movie stars and all of the rest. and in the course of his reporting, he started to hear at least bits of what we now know to be the case. and we had without -- i can't say too much about it. we did have a lawyer meeting with ken and harvey weinstein, bob, his brother bob weinstein, and their lawyer, david boyce. and you know, again, we were trying to extract more information. but really, the two women that we knew about had signed non-disclosure agreements. they weren't willing to come forward. and in order for us to publish, we have to know things, not just guess at them. this is not the tabloid press. this is not, you know, "tmz