sahil kapur, we will see. that's great reporting.rat of texas, who has been serving as chief democratic whip. with has served in congress for him for 28 years. he's witnessed the election of seven speakers, including newt gingrich, dennis hastert and -- congressman, you got to see something new today. what was it like in that room? >> chris, thank you for having me. >> we've just gone on a journey that history that one would never want to have to repeat. republicans came to destroy the government, in essence, by not organizing. and democrats came to organize and govern. so, what you saw was a complete, distinctive way that americans can see their leaders. one, working to get something done. one, causing the collapse of the constitution. and that's what we saw. that part of it was crazy. at the same time, it was an emotional charge, for the first time in the history of the united states there was an african american that was going to lead the caucus that would ultimately generate an african american speaker second in line to the presi

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other members of the congressional media, kapur of nbc news, quoting republican congressman patrick mchenry, a close ally of kevin mccarthy, saying, i feel better today than yesterday and the day before. so the trend is our friend. but saying there's no deal yet. one more from nicolas wu, politico, saying that house democrats have once again said that they will vote against a motion to adjourn if it's offered. that's according to a notice from the whip's office. so democrats want to stay on the floor and continue these speaker votes, at least that's what we expect they'll be doing if republicans once again try to offer a motion to adjourn and come back later. again, live coverage of the house floor here on c-span. the clerk of the house: the house will be in order. the chair counts 275 members present. a quorum is present. the question recurs upon the election of a speaker. the tellers will please come forward and take their seats. the clerk of the house: for what purpose does the gentleman from california rise? >> madam clerk, i rise to nominate kevin mccarthy for speaker of the house of r

joining me now is sahil kapur and susan page, donna edwards and former congressman david jolly.ssible demands the house republicans may be presenting in the coming days as both sides are sort of shaping the battle? >> first, the stakes are enormous. if the u.s. does default, we could look at everything from a recession and a stock market crash, failure to pay bills from everything from the pentagon to social security payments. it could be catastrophic worldwide. house republicans, newly empowered by this majority, are making a potpourri of demands. this is led by the same group of lawmakers who forced concessions out of speaker kevin mccarthy in order to give him the job. you see these on the screen. they want everything from dollar for dollar spending cuts, a ten-year balanced budget, mandatory spending cuts, that includes medicare and social security, and government funding at fiscal 2022 level, erasing a deal to raise domestic spending and pentagon spending. kevin mccarthy has not put out a specific list of demands. he has not flushed it out. he endorsed this push by the hard

joining me now from the capitol is sahil kapur, nbc news senior national political reporter, and maraie, former aide to congressman adam kinzinger and speaker john boehner. sahil, i want to start with you. this rules package is pretty draconian. not only allowing that one member to vote as a vote of no confidence, but also these cut as you go budget requirements and other things that are mainly seem to be targeting spending on social services. what went down and was it a unanimous vote on the republican side? >> not exactly a unanimous vote, joy. there was one republican, tony gonzalez of texas, who voted no. he had announced several days ago he would do that. he was the only republican who voted no. everyone else stuck with the caucus and voted yes on this package. and it passed by a vote of 220-213 with every democrat voting no. there are two particularly notable things about this. it brings back the rule that any one member can force a motion to vacate the chair, also known as overthrowing the speaker of the house. this was a problem for republicans back in the days of speaker john

adviser to the lincoln project, who worked as a communication director on capitol hill, and sahil kapurer for nbc news. i want to start with you, here's the challenge for mccarthy. if let's say vern buchanan retires because a maga member got that chairmanship that he wanted and this other gentlemen, mr. steube stays in the hospital, if he would have then pushed santos out, one republican member, one maga member, or even one democrat could call for that special provision to call for a vote of no confidence in him. and he might not win that. so -- because i am betting he will never push santos out, isn't that the reason why what you're hearing on the hill? >> this is a real challenge for speaker mccarthy, joy, no doubt ain't. the narrow majority that's identical to the narrow majority that speaker pelosi saw. it's hard to figure that that isn't at least part of one of the calculus and deciding to tolerate george santos right now, which i would say he is doing. he is tolerating george santos. he is not pushing him out. he knows that vote is going to be valuable to him. the one thing george

joining me now, nbc news senior national reporter sahil kapur.ngressman-elect. >> an awkward couple of days, for george santos, c-span cameras have an eagle eye on him and see him out there, caught sitting on his own, and one point, as you noted he was caught yawning, just recently, he has been seen in groups of republicans, chatting, you know, with members like steve scalise, the number two republican, and there is one thing that george santos does seem to want to talk about, kevin mccarthy, the official nominee to be speaker which is struggling to win the vote. let's play what george santos had to say about that. >> where do you stand in this process? did you vote for kevin mccarthy? >> yes i spoke with him. >> did he offer any advice? >> and the cold hard fact right now is that republicans need the vote of george santos to elect the speaker. they're already facing a mutiny. they have 20 defections plus one new present vote and if they lose george santos to the calls for resignation, it would be even more difficult to elect a speaker, that's th

and we have sahil kapur and neil irwin joining us with. and kay la, i will start you with. at the windy white house there, as it relates to what we're hearing from the treasury secretary, and from cnbc language, to plain english here, what it means. >> well, it's significant because the treasury secretary is saying that as of early june, the federal government won't be able to pay its bills anymore. it's allowed by congress to borrow up to $31 trillion and change, but it's going to hit that number next thursday. after that point, treasury is going to be looking under couch cushions to try to finds some additional money. it will be pinching pennies. and it says it will stop contributing or investing into some federal workers retirement accounts, to try to conserve some of that cash in order to avoid reaching that debt limit, or not being able to pay for allies and adversaries that hold the u.s. debt. so certainly the treasury secretary is trying to call on congress and say we need a deal in the coming months. i spoke to a senior white house official earlier today who said th

. >> i want to bring in senior national political reporter shail kapur.republicans are nervous about this and what we might see when voting begins. >> they're nervous because they can read a poll just as well as anybody else and there is a mountain of evidence that the issue of abortion has become a liability for republicans ever since the supreme court majority they built overturned roe v. wade last summer and hurt the gop in the midterm elections and led to the wafer thin majority and probably cost them seats. and by a margin of 76 to 23%, voters who cited abortion, cited republicans and the second most important voting part in 2022. and remember the republicans can only lose four votes as long as all democrats are united before a bill goes down and so far we heard nancy mace criticize the bill. she is not the only wunl. others have concerns, and one is brian fitzpatrick of pennsylvania and -- he talked to andrea mitchell earlier today. >> a friend of mine and i agree with her, she is right about that and i don't think it is wise to be going down this p

joining me now with the latest on negotiations, nbc news senior national political reporter, sahil kapur. you've been there all day. republican leadership setting out a notice that seems to make it clear they think they have the votes sewed up and will roll right into initiating the new house. >> chris, we are two hours away from the house reconvening and possibly electing a speaker. i say possibly because not a done deal. yet but, yes you're right, kevin mccarthy and his leadership feel confident they will have the votes to finally make him speaker tonight after more than a dozen attempts, more than a dozen filled attempts. they've been feverish lee negotiating with these right-wing holdouts. and made a lot of progress over the last 24 hours. they flip 14 out of the 20 rebels. the map is quite simple. the six remaining rebels. they need to win two out of them, flip them to guess. or get a bunch of others to vote president. which will lower the threshold -- but also give kevin mccarthy a majority. you flip just a little, bit but let's get into how people this. off there are three contour

and we have sahil kapur and neil irwin joining us with. and kay la, i will start you with.

sahil kapur is in his nerd debt element on capitol hill, thriving in the weeds on the debt ceiling.ay, as far as extraordinary measures set to go into place but the real hot mess of it all won't come up for months, right? probably june. maybe later. somewhere late spring early summer. congress works best under a deadline. is it at all realistic that we will see anything that will come of this whole thing, much before, you know, end of may? >> reporter: not in the near term, hallie. congress typically needs these deadlines to focus the mind and when it comes to things like the debt limit, congress has a tendency to take things right up to the edge. now it is important to step back and think about the consequence of a potential default if the u.s. goes over the debt limit, it could include everything from a stock market crash, to a major recession, a weaker dollar, higher interest rates, for ordinary americans on car and home loans, it could mean the government fails to continue sending out social security checks, i could go on and on and historically congress has always managed to av

sahil kapur, thank for reporting from capitol hill.speaker mccarthy -- something we talked about during the process a couple weeks ago -- what did he give up and promise to those members to get their vote about cutting spending, going after the debt that could hold up this process? >> right. it's a great question. the "wall street journal" asking questions also about how the republicans are going to handle this, talking about the fact that, you know, the hard reality of the debt ceiling showdown, democrats control the white house, democrats control the senate, republicans have a slim five-vote majority in the house of representatives, and chances are good, the "wall street journal" says the worst result would be for republicans to talk tough for months, only to splinter in a rout in the end and be forced to turn the house over to raise the debt ceiling. the fact is, willie, it's one thing for these house republicans, who, by the way, never protested while donald trump was raising the deficit and the federal debt to record levels every

joe, mika. >> nbc sahil kapur, thank you so much for your reporting.gration bills coming, like we're going to just do border security and nothing else, we're not going to talk about what actually, what small business owners need, what business owners need, what entrepreneurs need, what this economy needs, if you're just talking about one side of it, as nancy said, you're never going to pass that, right? and they know that. they know it will never pass the senate. they know the president will never sign it. for good reason. and so here we are again. the republicans are finally given one house to play with. and what are they doing? they're doing gesturing. instead of governing. >> yeah. >> tony gonzalez said it. we can't let the party be hijacked. he's a republican. he wants to do a good job. these people are extreme. they're crazy. you can call them crazies. >> idealogically, perhaps they are to the far trump right of where the independent voters and swing voters and the other voters, the former republican voters, who made them lose in 2017, 2018, 2019,

let's bring in nbc news senior national political reporter, sahil kapur.d also haunt the country. explain exactly what he had to give in to become the speaker and how strong his role as speaker is. >> reporter: kevin mccarthy is now officially speaker mccarthy, but at what cost and what will it do to his ability to govern the house? mcmccarthy won the speakership on the 15th ballot after making a series of concessions to 20 ultra-conservative house republicans that critics say will make his job impossible. will make the house ungovernable. what did he give up? the house rules package, which is set for a vote later today has a number of these concessions. let's put them up on the television screen. they include, for starters, any one member can force a motion to overthrow the speaker and ultimately you need five republicans to go along, and mccarthy will no longer have the votes to stay there. the package assures votes on bills to curtail abortion, restrict immigration, to cut irs funding. there are a host of budgetary restrictions here, a new provision tha