. >>> joining us to weigh in on the debate, cnbc contributor kara swisher good morning good to see you you >> i've been wondering what you made of the johansen lawsuit there was maybe some liabilities. you said on twitter you thought it was a smart take. >> it was an essay in the hollywood reporter pointing out that a lot of the -- a lot of the stuff just because they have done things a certain way doesn't mean they have to and some of the legal language in her contract seems to suggest that disney could do what it wanted to do here, especially because of the pandemic. disney made that comment when they -- i thought their comment was a little classless when they were talking about her being, you know, using covid as an excuse, but covid is an excuse and it changed everything and allowed studios to accelerate what was already happening, which was a move to streaming. and this is something i said a lot, i wrote -- i interviewed jason kyler of warner bros. when he did it. people in hollywood find it irritating, but everything is going to streaming and so this would be part of the equation

joining me, kara swisher, host of "the sway" podcast and "new york times" columnist. the recent pleasure of being on her podcast and i enjoyed it. thank you, good to see you. >> good to see you, don. >> covid is raging again and social media remains awash with disinformation. >> yes. >> have facebook or the other tech giants stepped up their game in any meaningful way to shut down that misinformation? >> they've been trying, obviously. it's a flood that you can't even believe what happens in terms of how much is uploaded every day to each of these systems, billions and billions of pieces of information. and so i think the issue is that it's just too much and they have a hard time keeping track of it and people change, do all kinds of tricks, there's bots and malevolent players. the problem is the system really does help people who want to push misinformation out the way it's built, as we've talked about many times before. and especially if there's, you know, sort of bad players with bad intent like rand paul or marjorie taylor greene who keep getting kicked off finall

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resetting at the bottom of the hour, i'm deirdre bosa with jon fortt and julia boorstin kara swisheroins us in a moment to break down the heat facing app stores at home and abroad, not hurting the stocks, though, alphabet up nearly a percent. apple 2.25% let's get a news update with rahel solomon. >> good morning, everyone. here's what's happening at this hour tropical storm ida is maintaining strength, sustained winds still 40 miles per hour. continuing its slow pace north through mississippi. manufacture many of the storm warnings have been discontinued in louisiana louisiana search and rescue and damage assessment is speeding up governor edward says 1600 people have been deployed state wide to find and help survivors. more than a million people without power, half of all utility customers in the state so far the port ofnew orleans says it found no major damage to its commercial facilities. >>> the pentagon says it has now helped evacuate more than 122,000 people from afghanistan. that's as isis-k claimed responsibility for a rocket attack on the kabul airport. military officials r

i have an interview in there from kara swisher interviewing gene sperling, you know,n which he was honest. he said, "look, when i look back at facebook's purchase of whatsapp and instagram now, we should've done something." and i think people were so enamored with tech at the time. you know, they said, "trust us," and everyone believed them, and they were great american companies employing people. that's all true. so they just kinof let it go. you add to that the sophistication of these companies d the fact that congress, as we know from some of the questioning, didn't really -- weren't able to cope with it. you've got multiple problems in them taking it on. now we've reached a different point, because we have seen the bad. we have seen the misinformation on vaccines and the like. we have seen the privacy and the data mining that goes on where we are nothing but profit centers. so what are we gonna do, just step back and say, "this is too complicated. we're not gonna do something"? i don't buy it, and i thought the app hearing that senator lee and i had just shows that we actually are ont

just uber and lyft and doordash and instacart as well, let's bring in host of the sway podcast kara swisher what do you make of this what do you make of this what does a win look like in the gig economy anymore? that's a great point from jon? >> it is not a win, it is lawyers. these are the way things go. this is how legislation is made. there was always go to be pushback from unions, which is what happened and figuring out how to give workers benefits and pay they deserve this is a fight that uber had since the beginning when it was created and it will have until it is sorted out properly. so they're going to continueto get legal challenges to whatever they do and wherever they do it and every single municipality they attempt it in california is the biggest and most important but these laws will be fought. i think -- many people think california supreme court will uphold this. where does that leave them negotiating with unions or drivers or a union of some sort to give people a living wage and to protect their healthcare benefits so they just are going to have to pay for what it caosts to