community food education, train the model where we train people in communities on how to cook with karabid kind of cook in a seasonal and local manner and farm to pantry program where we have the new york state department contract and we contract with farmers up state to grow foods particularly from pantries. the pantry clients get to go up and visit the farms, the farmers come down. so it's a symbiotic relationship. so we don't say, here is what you should do to improve food situation in your community, we say, what do you see as the problem and what do you see as the solution and how can we support you in that. >> that's wonderful. [applause] >> right? and i say that because i live part of the time in sonoma county where the farm community is very connected and there's a lo of discussion and effort and that sounds like the kind of activity that would go on in any community that carries about us anywhere. too difficult and too practical and expensive you've been doing it for 20 years. tell us when is the next conference? >> this coming sunday march 113th, food, education and policy. >> g