the beach, the camel ride, the trip to karachi with my mother, returning to a country she fled years ago as a refugee. did you ever think you would be doing this? >> i was not planning on this. >> it's going to be a journey of surprises, i think. >> yes. what are you thinking right now? >> it's so amazing, i can't believe it. i can't believe it. >> you never thought you would come back here? >> never. never. now i'm back with my son after 67 years. >> right. i'm not 67, just to be clear. >> no. i'm back, i'm back after 67 years. i was only 5. you cannot be 67. >> right. i tell people that my mom was a refugee when she was a young person. >> i'm still a refugee. i never got that status back. >> my mom was a survivor of one of the bloodiest partitions in our world's history, between hindus and muslims in india and pakistan. you left everything you owned. >> everything we owned because we did not know how long and where we are going, we did not know that also. one good thing happened out of all this. when you take a ball and you hit hard, it goes up higher. the harder you hit, the harde

on, i still got to do one of the most amazing things on this trip, take a stroll with my mom on karachi beach. i mean, you left your homeland into these waters and never came back. >> never came back in 67 years. >> i look at that water, i want to grab my surfboard and go out and surf. you look at that water and you see what? >> i see this is the water took me from this land. >> took you away. >> took me away from my home. >> and these are the very steps my mom and her parents and grandparents stepped down before getting on a cargo ship bound for bombay. these were awful times and the partition of india was in full swing. when think about getting in a cargo ship at age 5, very uncomfortable, not knowing where i'm going, not knowing if i'm going to be safe, having just left everything that i owned in the world behind. i think i would be sick to my stomach. >> sure, but i had a very brave mother. >> your mother? >> my mother. she reminded me every day we have lost everything but we have our courage. and we are not going to give up. >> while my mom's home was forced to move to karachi, bangalore