i mean come on, kareem! we both know if you saw a freaking spec tral figure gliding towards you on a sidewalk you cross to the other side of the street. (laughter) or if the apparition of a victorian child moves into your neighbor's house and wouldn't stop pointing at a bleeding closet door, i think you would worry about your property value dropping. (laughter) but i'm going to let you get by on this one. i will let you slide. because you're a friend. an in this case, it's reasonable to mix up racism and ghosts. because donald sterling is both a racist and looks like slimer. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ gigantic, gigantic, gigantic ♪ a big, big love ♪ gigantic, gigantic, gigantic ♪ a big, big love ♪ ♪ i live in a luxury penthouse overlooking central park. when the guests arrive, they're greeted by my butler, larry. my helipad is being re-surfaced so tonight we travel by more humble means. at my country club, we play parlor games with members of the royal family. yes i am rich. that's why i drink the champagn

i mean come on, kareem! we both know if you saw a freaking spec tral figure gliding towards you on a sidewalk you cross to the other side of the street. (laughter) or if the apparition of a victorian child moves into your neighbor's house and wouldn't stop pointing at a bleeding closet door, i think you would worry about your property value dropping. (laughter) but i'm going to let you get by on this one. i will let you slide. because you're a friend. an in this case, it's reasonable to mix up racism and ghosts. because donald sterling is both a racist and looks like slimer. slimer. we'll be right back. thanks. mmm, actually it does! get ready for summer with a frozen, fruit-flavored dunkin' coolatta. pick up any small coolatta for just $1.99. with new bud light lime raz-ber-rita. raz-ber-rita combines authentic margarita taste with a refreshing twist of bud light lime. just pop, pour over ice and enjoy. also try new mang-o-rita. and enjoy. it's built to be as fast as it is strongor advil. and fights pain at

i mean come on, kareem! we both know if you saw a freaking spec tral figure gliding towards you on a sidewalk you cross to the other side of the street. (laughter) or if the apparition of a victorian child moves into your neighbor's house and wouldn't stop pointing at a bleeding closet door, i think you would worry about your property value dropping. (laughter) but i'm going to let you get by on this one. i will let you slide. because you're a friend. an in this case, it's reasonable to mix up racism and ghosts. because donald sterling is both a racist and looks like slimer. slimer. we'll be right back. it takes place in anhaha, cleveland... i love it babe. i'm not your babe. you weren't saying that this morning, when you're like... mmmmm mmmm mmm alright we're done. break up with lingering food. (ding!) mmmmm mmmm for that just brushed clean feeling... ♪ eat, drink, chew orbit it's that voice in your head, making sure you sleep through that yoga class. convincing you that one donut hole couldn't possibly le

i mean come on, kareem!spec tral figure gliding towards you on a sidewalk you cross to the other side of the street. (laughter) or if the apparition of a victorian child moves into your neighbor's house and wouldn't stop pointing at a bleeding closet door, i think you would worry about your property value dropping. (laughter) but i'm going to let you get by on this one. i will let you slide. because you're a friend. an in this case, it's reasonable to mix up racism and ghosts. because donald sterling is both a racist and looks like slimer. we'll be right back. [ man ] i am a united states sailor. [ woman ] i will support and defend the constitution of the united states of america... [ man #2 ] ...and i will obey the orders of those appointed over me. [ man #3 ] i represent the fighting spirit of the navy and those who have gone before me... [ woman #2 ] ...to defend freedom and democracy around the world. [ woman #3 ] i proudly serve my country's navy combat team... [ man #4 ] ...with honor, courage, and com

it's terrific. >> thanks so much. >> kareem, it's great of you to be here. kareem abdul-jabbar.nd the greatest team.com. >> the greatest tooem.c esest t. >> thanks so much. up next, donald sterling's litigious history suggests he'll end up in court with the nba. what we should all expect and whether he has a case. [ female announcer ] this allergy season, will you be a sound sleeper, or a mouth breather? a mouth breather! [ whimpers ] how do you sleep like that? well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. allergy medicines open your nose over time, but add a breathe right strip and pow! it instantly opens your nose up to 38% more. so you can breathe and do the one thing you want to do -- sleep. add breathe right to your allergy medicine. be here. and sleep right. breathe right. kareem abdul-jabbar. homeowners searching for mortgage refinancing. hey guys, you need some help? >> yes. >> yes, thank you. follow me. come on. if you're underwater and current on your payments, it's your best route to a better mortgage see if you qualify at harp.gov. >>> the wourd of the mom

kareem abdul-jabbar was an assistant coach for the team back in 2000.est selling book on the shoulders of giants. i spoke to him earlier. kareem in your column, you spointd out the whole issue with donald sterling shouldn't be a big surprise. he's got a long history of racism. what are we learning from all of this and why isn't it a surprise to people? >> it shouldn't be a surprise to people because what we've learn from the court cases against mr. sterling, the federal case where he discriminated against blacks and latinos and people with children. that was just really the tip of the iceberg. so these things have been going on for a long time. nobody ever dealt with it straightforward. sometimes i think that a lot of white people don't understand that racism is real. more white people believe in goefts goefts than believe that racism is real. that bothers me. sometimes we have to take a moment and deal with it. >> it's obviously very real with donald sterling. is it possible that the nba could take the franchise away and say look, you can own the clipp

it's terrific. >> thanks so much. >> kareem, it's great of you to be here. kareem abdul-jabbar. and the greatest team.com. >> the greatest tooem.c esest t. >> thanks so much. up next, donald sterling's litigious history suggests he'll end up in court with the nba. what we should all expect and whether he has a case. stick with innovation. stick with power. stick with technology. get the flexcare platinum from philips sonicare and save now. philips sonicare >>> the wourd of the moment, intransigent. unwilling to refuse to change one's views, to be stubborn. does that apply to anyone you know in public life? joining us now, fox news leelue analysts. does donald sterling have a case now that he's being banned for life? >> he's an nba individual that is bound by the nba contract. and the nba has a constitution that says you can be voted out by three quarters of the openers. there are 29 nba owners. all 29 are on board saying you're out, sterling. we don't want you for be part of the nba. >> he could come back and say i don't care about the constitutional bylaws here with the nba. i

do you have a view on that, kareem?, you know, i really don't think it's going to be a -- make much difference who gets the team. it's just the fact that we've been able to get mr. sterling away from the franchise and whatever happens with the franchise will happen. but the clipper fans are really happy about that. the players are happy about that. people can support the team now because there's a clear demar cake between the team and the owner of the team. and that's really the best thing that commissioner silver aechooefed. you know, he laid down the law and he has made it possible for people to see this in a different light. and maybe for some healing. so i think a very good job was done. and i commend everybody involved. >> and he seemed firm about it after i spoke to him after the press conference. he seemed very firm about it. but let me ask you this, when you see people like lebron -- let me play what lebron said yesterday. >> okay. >> the next step is for the owners to vote and get him to sell the franchise. and

writing in "time" magazine kareem abdul jabbar a sincere man opines about racism, quote. best way to combat it is to seek it out every minute of every day expose every instance we find. and not just racism, but also sexism. homophobia and every other kind of injustice, unquote. although mr. abdul jabbar doesn't know it that statement is dangerous. if his vision were to come true, we would be a nation of witch-hunters. who exactly is in charge of defining and exposing every instance of racism? who? do we set up a tribunal in salem, massachusetts? sadly this kind of think something permeating the country. americans are being punished for even donating money to causes some people don't like. speakers are being cancelled on college campuses if they don't uphold liberal orthodoxy or mandates. race hustlers are branding people with whom they don't disagree with the r label. you want a divided nation, let's keep this up. the reason kareem abdul jabbar was asked to write a column on racism is because of donald sterling the owner of the los angeles clippers who has now been banish

. >> a stunning claim by kareem abdul jabbar. is there any truth to it? we have a factor investigation. >> i have been hearing that crap since i was at ucla: the factor begins right now. hi i'm laura ingraham in for bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. lapping toes not attack dogs. that describes the press, that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. every year the president, the press, and a smattering of hollywood types they get together and they yuck it up at the white house correspondents dinner. tell jokes and clink glasses and now they pose for selfies. what used to be a one night affair though has turned into three days of nonstop cocktail parties, dinners and brunches. i have attended these dinners, for the most part they are overcrowded, overbehind and now i think they should be over with after all what are they really celebrating at this point? the fact that they have missed or underreported some of the biggest stories of the past 10 years? china is about to overtake our economy, america is in decline, the benghazi cover

kareem abdull jabber said the log should have acted a long time ago. ladies and gentlemen, governor mike huckabee. (applause) >> thank you, thank you very much. and welcome to huckabee, from the fox news studios in new york city. september of 2012, just days after the brutal murders of four americans in the diplomatic outpost in benghazi, libya, i was perhaps to say outright that our government loyed to us about what happened. it is been two years, and through subkwent hearings and leaks and investigative reports and ever- changing reports from the current administration, i never had to recant or clarify my original blunt statement. this week judicial watch finally obtained bombshell e-mails revealing that the top white house aide instructed susan rice to go on shoes and spin the loy that benghazi was due to a video. ine caught with the pants down, the white house continued to play the american public for fools, giving comments like these from white house press hack jay con man carne. >> why are you would hoking back the information and why was it not

. >>> coming up, kareem abdul jabbar talks about language in the locker room. plus, will oprah winfrey replace donald sterling as owner of the clippers? if other nba owners force him out? eric has news next. >>> welcome back, everybody. three provocative topics, seven pulsating minutes. see, when you take a week off or two. first up, kareem abdul-jabbar sat down with bill o'reilly last night to chat about the very provocative comment made by a black sports writers who suggested that nba players and specifically african-american nba players stop using the "n "word. here's kareem's interesting response. >> people who don't understand what we fought for in this country during the civil rights movement think that they can clean that word up. i don't think it can ever be cleaned up and i think black americans should avoid using it. >> interesting. interesting. a very classy guy. >> if you watch that whole interview, he's fantastic. >> he's right. i was raised not to use that word. i think most of us were raised that way. what this means is we spend a lot of time tal

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>> kareem abdul jabar. >> what do you think? >> kareem. bill russell. if you're talking about championships it's bill russell and kareem. >> defense, too. thanks, guys. casey jones was with them all the way from high school and college. thank you, guys. it's great to have a change of pace here and talk sports a little bit. we'll be right back. >>> let me finish tonight with a bonfire burning under the butt of donald sterling. he lit it himself. don't say something you don't want printed on the front page of the new york times. how many times do you hear that warning? how about this corollary? don't say something you are not willing to defend publically, especially to someone who may have incentive to go public with it. there are, i think we can agree, larger points to this ongoing saga of the 80-year-old rich guy who wants african-americans to win games for him but not to show up in the good seats, at least not within a seat of his girlfriend. i would like to hope -- that's the best i can do -- that this national focus on donald sterling will lead peopl

>> kareem abdul jabar. >> what do you think? >> kareem. bill russell.lking about championships it's bill russell and kareem. >> defense, too. thanks, guys. casey jones was with them all the way from high school and college. thank you, guys. it's great to have a change of pace here and talk sports a little bit. we'll be right back. ♪ [ girl ] my mom, she makes underwater fans that are powered by the moon. ♪ she can print amazing things, right from her computer. [ whirring ] [ train whistle blows ] she makes trains that are friends with trees. ♪ my mom works at ge. ♪ my mom works at ge. (meowright on cue. it's more than just a meal, it's meow mix mealtime. with wholesome ingredients and irresistible taste, it's the only one cats ask for by name. who gets the allstate safe driving bonus check. rock beats scissors! [ chuckles ] wife beats rock. and with two checks a year, everyone wins. [ female announcer ] switch today and get two safe driving bonus checks a year for driving safely. only from allstate. call 866-906-8500 now. [ dennis ] zach really loves hi

nba hall of famer kareem abdul-jabbar joins us live. >>> smoking gun. the white house releases a secret benghazi e-mail. republicans call it proof of a coverup. >>> then, al franken in his first sunday interview. >>> and we're behind the scenes at the white house correspondents' dinner. >> the house republicans give john boehner a harder time than they give me. which means orange really is the new black. >>> good morning, everyone. it's a happy one in los angeles. where after a week of chaos and controversy, the clippers came from behind late last night to beat the golden state warriors, keep their playoff hopes alive. big question now, who will run the team? will donald sterling be forced to sell? we're learning this morning that the nba is poised to name a new clippers ceo. abc's ryan smith is tracking it all from l.a. good morning, ryan. >> reporter: good morning, george. clippers fans out in force. celebrating the team's big win. the team's fortunes are on the rise. the fate of the owner hangs in the balance. [ crowd cheering ] after a week of scand

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kareem is on my left and "today" folks on my right.chard marks is behind me with barbara walters. >> on the right of your screen you're seeing judy smith who is the real life olivia. go ahead. let's talk to richard marx. tell him i said "hold on to the night." >> don lemon made a corny joke. "hold on to the night" he told me. >> it's not corny. i wrote that. that's not corny! >> richard marx doesn't know this but theme to my high school prom was "right here waiting". >> really? your whole class would be waiting there for you? "hold on to the night." but it's cool. awesome. >> absolutely. >> you're here at what is called the nerd prom. are you geeking out at all yet? >> no, just sort of hanging out. i've never been here before. thrilled to be invited. i'm a big fan of joel's who is going to do a great job, i'm sure. yeah, i'm here to hang out and have fun. >> it is so interesting to me because it's like political pundits and hollywood heavyweights and everybody blending and having weird mix of fun that you don't know how it works. it ju

injured knee, and the game is then and the last time they had a game 7 they faced the lakers led by kareem abdul jabbar. >> wow, going back quite a ways, thank you brian. >>> we are learning more information about the owner of the clippers donald sterling, we are finding out he is battling cancer, this comes after the nba banned him and the owners are meeting to force him to sell the team. and the president of the l.a. naacp resigned over the controversy involving donald sterling. they had this statement. >> this week has been an embarrassment for the naacp and i hope this is a change in the direction of the naacp. >> he donated over 40,000 dollars to them of the past years and they say it will be returned. >>> a woman and man were bitten by dogs there. first a woman walking was bit by a dog and then later a man was attacked by the man and they were forced to taser the dog and an argument erupted when the owners returned. >> and her little puppy is there. >> and you don't know the whole story, mister because that dog was abused. >> officers say they held the dog there and they had to be qu

and here's kareem abdul-jabbar writing, the releasing of this tape is so sleazy, just listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to the crime. >> agreed. can we all please take a shower after watching the barbara walters interview? mark cuban agrees with you, that this is a slippery slope. >> he's another nba owner. >> yes, to take away somebody's property, a billion dollar franchise, i read. donald sterling does have a history of this type of behavior in his public dealings along with the dealings of the clippers, he was accused of plantation mentality. >> they're foot going to take away his property. they're going to buy it from him. he's going to make a lot of money. >> that's the irony here. >> they cannot confiscate his property. he owns it. he is subject to the rules. he signed a contract. it's market value. they're not going to take away his property. >> the irony is his punishment will be -- >> to become richer. >> hundreds of millions of dollars. amazingly, the clippers won their playoff series in the seventh game. the players managed to stay focused. there were mistake

so people in my block down the street to -- kareem abdul-jabbar has a place. and further down the street, henry lewis skip gates has a place. and roberto has a place. the taxi driver and the people who sell newspapers all know where these luminaries live. so a person was bringing a taxi driver was bringing someone to my house. and he slowed down, the driver d he said where would i find martin lewis park. he said are you looking for dr. maya angelou. tavis: they love you. >> yes, they do. tavis: there are a lot of folks for a lot of reasons that don't like us. it wasn't just america that dropped the ball but there are a lot of folk out there, angela who don't like us these days. are they justified not liking us. -- liking us? >> we had done some ugly things. but we had done some good things before. the good things sort of balanced out the evil things. me ver, because of this against the world and you're not it. and i don't like you because the way you call god your color or something because of that, then i don't have to make any effort to know you. at one time

nobody is saying db -- i think that everyone agrees with what kareem abdul-jabbar said. >> yes.s was creepy -- >> something by definition of public act then get in trouble for saying something stupid or illegal or wrong that brings the public backlash. >> these are totally different issues. >> remedy for bigoted repungent expression, is corrective expression speaking to the truth. >> the nba has certain agreements with their owners -- >> article 35 said conduct -- >> let me finish. >> it says -- >> let him finish. >> the organization -- >> let norman finish. >> thank you, don. article 35 of the constitution of the nba talks about conduct prejudicial or detrimental to the nba. it doesn't say speech and words. and therefore, they are in trouble because legally -- >> you're lawyering it now. >> should we throw the law out? >> come on. speech can be conduct. >> no, speech is not conduct. >> it is a different matter and donald sterling will be very well represented in whatever leg legalities come from this. >> so if i did a radio internet show, doing hate speech, and can i say, they

kareem is writing the making and release of the tape is so sleepy that listening to it makes me feel like i am an accomplice to the crime. >> agreed. can we please take a shower after watching the barbara walters interview. and mark cuban agrees this is a slippery slope. >> another nba owner. >> remember, donald sterling it turns out has a history of this behavior in public dealings and with the l.a. clippers who he was accused of plantation property. >> they will not take away the property, they will buy it. they cannot confiscate his property. he signed a contract with the nan so he is subject to the rules of the nba and if enough of them say you have to sell, they will sell and buy it from him at its market value. though will not take away the value. >> irony is his punishment will be richer by hundreds of millions. >> and amazingly the l.a. clippers won the series and were focused. there were mistakes on the reporting with the finance reporting there there would be a $5 million fine that was $2.5 million but when there is a frenzy you miss the hoop when you shoot. >> send me a tw

kareem abdul-jabbar. you have been critical of the owner, and also been critical how the comments came into the public sphere. how they were secretly recorded by a former girlfriend. and also the role played by the media and kind of the finger wagging. you said the whole country got carpal tunnel from finger wagging, not to mention morally superior head shaking. explain what bothers you about the way the whole thing played out. >> there were indications at least a decade ago, that mr. sterling had some really disturbing views. there was evidence that was given in depositions for some of the trials that he had to go through where he was being sued for refusing to rent some of his properties to minority people or people with large families. and we should have had an indication much earlier time. he is not the type of person who should represent the nba. >> in terms of the woman's role who made this recording or apparently made the recording, v. stiviano. you describe her as trying to dig to get him to expos

his name is kareem and his bankers lied about the mortgage backed security and he knew about that and looked the other way so he was guilty. >> jon: huh. lie being the value of mortgage-backed securities and looking the other way i think was the slogan for one of those companies, wasn't it? why is he the only person to have gone to jail for that activity? >> he pled guilty and he is now in prison. >> jon: oh, he want to jail for stupidity. doesn't he know, pleading guilty is now how you address the common charges. >> jp morgan settled charges with the government but they are not admitting wrongdoing. >> goldman sachs settled for $550 million without admitting wrongdoing. >> ubs agreed to pay about $50 million. under the terms of settlement ubs did not admit any wrongdoing. >> jon: that's how we do. [laughter] you say when you are caught, while i clearly have done nothing wrong, i know you are a busy man and your time is valuable so here is a little something for your troubles, you know what i mean? get the government's wife something nice, maybe a tennis bracelet. hey, gabbagoul. [ la

former nba star kareem abdul-jabbar said this week he believes these incidents point to a larger issue bit of research. more whites believe in ghosts than believe in re schism. that's why we don't have -- that's why we have shows like ghost busters and don't have shows like racist busters. >> just look at what happened to montre montreal canadiens subban. subban won the winner goal against the bruins. unhappy boston fans took to twitter to send racist tweets. according to analysis, subban's name and the n-word were used simultaneously on 17,000 tweets on thursday. in fact, the n-word was a trending topic on twitter in boston after the game. not all of these tweets were negative. many boston fans chimed in to express their disappointment with the racist tweets, but the fact those fan hs to speak out against such overt racism in the first place clearly is disappointing enough. joining me now for our rapid response panel is political analyst dr. michael eric dyson and zurlina maxwell. good to have you both with us tonight. dr. dyson, you first. the bruins have condemned their fans' racist

i met everybody from casey aflac to kareem abdul jabbar, kirsten gillebrand, lindsay von was followinge around saying i want to you meet this guy and that guy. >> what did you think of president obama's performance? >> he's always so good. i've gone the last 30 years. i've got to bring up the 2011 one when seth meyers was hosting when the president performed standup comedy the night before the bin laden raid. so to be able to do that, that year, the rest is easy, and the president always does very well. he times it really well, and we got to give credit to the people who write the president's jokes. they're really good writers. >> joel mchale was good. he definitely stepped up to the plate. what was your favorite moment? >> joel mchale is great. just be clear the standup comedi comedian, this is not a fun gig. it's not a great gig to prepare for. you're nerve-wracked sitting there for two hours next to the first lady, scratching jokes off, writing more jokes. the best moment was when he made fun of chris christie. i'm not a fan of the fat joke, it's too easy and done but i think we hav

kareem abdul jabar is speaking out. >> reporter:the hall of famer says court documented rascism in sterlings other business dealings - like refusing to rent apartments to minorities - should have prompted the nba to take disciplinary action sooner. >>owners want to end sterling's ownership "expeditiously" >> it is a very ugly face to the world and i am glad that he is that he is no longer at face of the nba. he seems to be content with how he feels this sad but seems to be true >> reporter:new york - nba owners are not wasting any time to end the tenure of one of their own, embattled l.a. clippers owner donald sterling. the nba owners' advisory/finance committee has held its first meeting about sterling and is committed to ending his ownership "as expeditiously as possible." >> reporter:the 10-member committee held a conference call thursday to discuss "the process for termination of donald t. sterling's ownership of the los angeles clippers," the league says in a statement. >> reporter:commissioner adam silver banned sterling for life and fined him $2.5 million tuesday for making racist com

one large thing was what kareem serageldin was found guilty was, which is lying about the value of yoursets, that can be a crime if you knowingly do it with intent. the second thing is misleading andpublic about your books records. that also, i believe, happened. the question is whether the top executive know about it. there is another bucket, which is misleading people when you are selling something. what happened in the crisis was that a lot of people sold mortgages to investment banks that got sold to customers that they knew were rotten, and they it,not tell anybody about and then people on wall street constructed complex mortgage securities, some of them secretly bet against them, building them to fail, and i think in some ways that may have been criminal. nothing was ever proven or charged, but i think that should have been explored more fully. host: one of the things you write about, mr. eisinger, in your piece, taking a look at why only one land in jail, you said the cases were complex to investigate and would have been infernally difficult to explain to juries. can you expand o

week"0 eastern, "this with al franken, kareem -- kareem abdul-jabbar, and rick santorum.ncludes sunday" guests adam schiff. "state of the union" follows at 3:00 with ron johnson and joe manchin and eliot engel. "face the nation" with lindsay graham, mayor eric garcetti, and richard williams, the father of serena and venus williams. a sunday network t.v. talk shows are on c-span radio and brought to you as a public service by the networks and c-span. rebroadcasts of the shows begin at noon with "meet the press." you can listen to them all on c-span radio on 90.1 fm in the washington, d.c. area, xm app,lite radio, the free or online at www.c-span.org. >> do you find it curious nasa did not skip a line for you to say? >> in retrospect, they might have wished they would have. the late julian sher who handled nasa relations with the outside world was adamant headquarters never put words in the mouth of their people. not just astronauts but anybody. they let people speak for themselves. they made it known what the party line was and what the nasa position was. but beyond that,

kareem.gic and shaq and michael jordan and expressing their criticism and the nba didn't just fine him and suspend him for a year but try to kick him out of the league. >> it despicable and i am glad what happened to him. >> not any sympathy for donald sterling who has not a pollized. >> and outnumbered. i happen you interviewed the ladies on the show. >> i watched it and i would like to try that. i was in new york and after the show was over. i went and sat on the couch and four on one and we got into a interesting conversation about women in tv news and whether they have to look better and have a certain amount of sex a pole in a way men don't have to worry about and they had strong opinions and they set this dude straight. >> what did you learn? >> i other thanked that no matter how much people chatter about that woman looks good in a address. you can't make it in tv news. i anyhow this. unless you have experience and know your tough and a good talker on television. and they were not shy a

one large thing was what kareem serageldin was found guilty was, which is lying about the value of your assets, that can be a crime if you knowingly do it with intent. the second thing is misleading andpublic about your books records. that also, i believe, happened. the question is whether the top executive know about it. there is another bucket, which is misleading people when you are selling something. what happened in the crisis was that a lot of people sold mortgages to investment banks that got sold to customers that they knew were rotten, and they it,not tell anybody about and then people on wall street constructed complex mortgage securities, some of them secretly bet against them, building them to fail, and i think in some ways that may have been criminal. nothing was ever proven or charged, but i think that should have been explored more fully. host: one of the things you write about, mr. eisinger, in your piece, taking a look at why only one land in jail, you said the cases were complex to investigate and would have been infernally difficult to explain to juries. can you expan

. >> here's kareem abdul-jabbar over the weekend. >> this is a problem. i did research, more whites believe in ghosts than believe in racism. it's something that is start part of our culture and people hold on to some of these ideas and practices just out of habit and saying that well that's the way it always was. but things have to change. >> so the larger points, laila is that people who make racist comments don't believe they are racist at all. can we recognize our own biases the way we recognize other people's biases? can you be that ignorant of the fact you are racist when you make such comments not knowing you are racist when you make such comments? >> yes, i think people can be that ignorant. maybe people feel because they are not burning people's houses down or sick dogs on them they're not racist. any time you feel superior to someone because of the color of your skin you are racist. and a lot of times people think they're just lesser than we are and that's just the way they are born. that is something that has been passed down. from the first ti