ever interview of kareem abdul- jabbar. recently the hbo special produced by lebron james. all about the fact that student athletes are the only category of people for whom someone, entities, benefit from labor in huge monetary amount, and yet they are denied any access to any of that revenue or that benefit. >> many of the students, not all, but many come from low income families. many of them are students of does that play into the unfairness, the injustice? >> the civil rights issue oit definitely plays into it. historically, it has been something that black athletes in the black community has really raised as a significant sue. but i think we need to just look at it as an issue for all athletes. you and i, everyone in california, has the right to their anme, image, likeness. and no one else can monetize you are mine image likeness without our permission without giving us a , chair of th except student athletes. every other student can. why should a student athlete have to right away that right to do something that they love? >> of course, the schools, the ncaa, they are