first round's on me. >> the engage bin for life for sterling taunted by our next guest kareem abdul-jabbard and six time nba champion the all-time leading scorer and author of the new book entitled on dash untitled on the shoulders of giants great to have you with us. no one would rather talk with about this they you. first your reaction on sterling? >> i think the commissioner just a great job to figure out to do with this problem. we had indications of his character over a long period of time,b%u especially during the federal issues he had refusing to rent his properties to minorities or those with small children. that gives you the insight into his character and it took this incident for the league to have the opportunity to deal with him and he is an embarrassment to basketball and to himself for quite some time. lou: i said talking with the viewers of love for someone to expect -- explain to me why it took 33 seasons? no one knew this man's character or what he was? that is inexplicable. >> they knew about it but no one had the opportunity to deal with it or had the power to deal with

so says nba great kareem abdul-jabbar today, and he joins us next. stay with us. >>> while i understand anger that would be naturally expressed over hearing a tape like this, i also believe that ultimately the players and the rest of the nba family has confidence that we'll deal with it appropriately. >> nba commissioner adam silver today assuring the country that the nba will deal with the controversy surrounding l.a. clippers owner donald sterling, in his words, appropriately. joining us now is kareem abdul-jabbar, former nba player and mvp, former coach of the l.a. clippers at one time. he wrote in "time" magazine today, welcome to the finger-wagging olympics. it's time to look at ourselves and our collective moral outrage in the mirror. it's an honor to have you here, thanks for your time tonight. >> it's a pleasure to talk to you, rachel. >> you wrote today that you're basically as bothered by mr. sterling's evident racism in this tape as you are by everybody acting like it was a huge surprise. why do you think -- why do you think that happened?

kareem abdul-jabbar continues. the big question is what should be done next? i hope sterling loses his franchise. i hope whoever made this illegal tape is sent to prison. i hope the clippers continue to be unconditionally supported by their fans. i hope the clippers realize that the ramblings of an 80-year-old man jealous of his young girlfriend don't define who they are as individual players or as a team. they haven't playing for sterling, they're playing for themselves, for the fans, for showing the world that neither basketball nor our american ideals are defined by a few pathetic men or women. so says nba great kareem abdul-jabbar today, and he joins us next. stay with us. avo: wherever your journey takes you the expedia app helps you save with mobile-exclusive deals download the expedia app text expedia to 75309 expedia, find yours you stand behind what you say. there's a saying around here, around here you don't make excuses. you make commitments. and when you can't live up to them, you own up, and make it right. some people think the kind of accountabil

kareem abdul-jabbar continues. the big question is what should be done next? i hope sterling loses his franchise. i hope whoever made this illegal tape is sent to prison. i hope the clippers continue to be unconditionally supported by their fans. i hope the clippers realize that the ramblings of an 80-year-old man jealous of his young girlfriend don't define who they are as individual players or as a team. they haven't playing for sterling, they're playing for themselves, for the fans, for showing the world that neither basketball nor our american ideals are defined by a few pathetic men or women. so says nba great kareem abdul-jabbar today, and he joins us next. stay with us. peace of mind is important when you're running a business. century link provides reliable it services like multi-layered security solution to keep your information safe & secure. century link. your link with what's next. hey kevin...still eating chalk for hearburn? yea. try alka seltzer fruit chews. they work fast on heart burn and taste awesome. these are good. told ya! i'm feeling bett

kareem abdul-jabbar is the all-time scoring leader in nba history. he was inducted into the basketball hall of fame in 1995. same amick covers "usa today." tmz posted a tape that they say is donald steriling. it hasn't been authenticated but sterling has not denied it's him. a statement from the clipper's president says steriling is emphatic that what's on the tape is not consistent with his views. but let's listen to the stay. >> people call you and say that i have black people on my instagram and it bothers you. >> yeah, it bothers me a lot. if you want to broadcast that you're associating with black people, your whole life, every day, you can do whatever you want, sleep with them, bring them in, do whatever you want. the little i ask you is not to promote it and not to bring them to my games. >> and we'll have more from that later. but here's more of it now. >> do you know that you have a whole team that's black, that plays for you? >> you just -- do i know? i support them and give them food and clothes and cars and houses. who gives it to them? d

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it doesn't matter who the owner is. >> kareem abdul-jabbar, thank you so much. thank you for the book, the movie, for all you've done. you were here and we talked about your children's book. and we hope you'll come back as we continue to follow this and not let this drop this time. >> great to talk to you, andrea. >> thank you very, very much. >>> historic rainfall. we can hear some of it right here in the studio over in washington. it's really serious down south, in florida in particular. the past 24 hours has brought the southeast to a standstill. it's being called a once in a generation flood in an area already hard hit by severe weather this week. the tornadoes, of course. the danger is not over yet. nbc's gabe gutierrez reported on the latest from pensacola, florida. >> reporter: andrea, we've been seeing some incredible pictures coming out of pensacola. florida's governor has just declared a state of emergency for 26 counties. the florida panhandle really is at a standstill. that train behind me isn't going anywhere. and many businesses are reporting a lot

joining me is a kareem abdul jabbar. mr. l jabbar, it's an honor to introduce you and meet you via satellite. sterling has not reacted personally but you know him well. is that him on the tape, do you think? >> it sounds like him to me, as far as i can tell. i have no electronic expertise but it sounds like him. >> are you surprised by the sentiments that he expressed by minorities? did you ever hear him say anything similar in your presence? >> he never said anything like that in my presence but i read transcripts from some of his trials. some of the things that he said about black people, that black tenants are -- they smell and have vermin -- cause vermin to come into some of his rental properties. he didn't want to rent to black and mexican families that tried to rent some of his properties. he's been very forthright. and just his lack of compassion for people. one of his coaches came down with cancer and needed surgery and mr. sterling would not allow that coach to be covered by his -- the team policy. it's ridiculous. t

you hear from kareem abdul jabbar and you heard the conversation where you said i worked for mr. sterling for three months, i know the man, i know his voice and that sure sounds like his voice. >> it it was not my voice i would come out the next moment i could get on camera and say that's not me. the fact he didn't speaks volumes. >> it was very telling in your view he's disappeared, not at the game, not denying any participation in these recordings, nothing. >> if he does not have a perfect explanation for this, you needs to make a decision to move away from the nba and not try to salvage something that he can't deal with in today's society. >> as it pertains to the ownership, he is an owner of an nba team, whether the nba players association has a strong point of view on this or whether it's the new commissioner, mr. silver, who is going to take some action on this, because he is an owner can heu.s. removed because he made the insulting remarks? what leverage do any of the organizations or entities have? >> the lawyers who interpret the contract that exists between the nba and

i just spoke with kareem abdul jabbar. he's speaking a very similar sentiment. >> yeah. look, it's not surprising to hear that kind of talk from donald sterling. for those of your viewers not familiar with him, before this incident, let me give you a little background. ste sterling made some of his money in real estate development and two times he was sued for discriminating about what kind of tenants he had in his buildings. there was enough evidence that sterling settled for huge amounts. one time it was a record amount. an all-star worked for sterling and the management of the clippers. baylor filed a lawsuit against sterling and one of the quotes entered into the record in that suit is sterling allegedly saying that the reason he discriminated back in his apartment buildings was that, quote, black tenants smell and attract verment. and the nba has been criticized in the past for not doing anything about sterling. but now this recording, it really does seem to be the tipping point, fred, and a lot of people are demanding that they take action. >> so what kind of actio

. >> steve, kareem abdul-jabbar came out and said shouldn't we be equally angered by the fact that this private, intimate conversation was taped and then leaked to the media. the making of this tape was sleazy. listening to it makes me feel like an accomplice to a crime. is this the future of america. a conversation between two people supposedly in a relationship wind up going public and then somebody who makes clearly inappropriate remarks has everything taken away from him? >> megan, i think you're spot on. this potentially becomes the norm. look at this. if this happens to mr. sterling, this potentially could happen to anybody. you never know what potentially could happen. this could be the opening of a huge pandora's box. >> what do you make of it, colonel west because the nba has come under fire in recent years, there's a book written about nba in 2004 about the number of crimes that players have committed or been accused of or convicted of which is the only relevant standard. to see the players uniformly stand shoulder to shoulder to shout down racism was a powerful thing and a go

kareem abdul-jabbar supporting magic johnson and his club. bumgarner struck out ten and got help from the offense. michael morse, first home with the giants. 2-1. in the fifth two men on for sandoval. lined to left. first of the year, next batter, buster, see ya. second of the year. took him 17 games to get one last year. 7-2 the final, improving to 5-1. >> in rain in oakland but the a's checked with leigh glaser and they're playing ball. seattle in town, pitcher's duel. straily struck out seven in six innings, king felix dominateses, lasted 8 third-1/3, and the fifth, the two-run shot. then the solo shot. straily allowed three runs on six hits. bottom nine, tying run at the plate. fernando rodney strikes out josh reddick. a's lose, now 23-on the season. afterwards, bob melvin impressed with flex herb -- felix hernandez. >> we started to get some good swings at the end genes him but for seven innings, that's as good as we have seen. >> more disappointed with myself than the second one than the first one. it what it is. >> college hoops. women

kareem abdul-jabbar supporting magic johnson and his club. bumgarner struck out ten and got help from the offense. michael morse, first home with the giants. 2-1. in the fifth two men on for sandoval. lined to left. first of the year, next batter, buster, see ya. second of the year. took him 17 games to get one last year. 7-2 the final, improving to 5-1. >> in rain in oakland but the a's checked with leigh glaser and they're playing ball. seattle in town, pitcher's duel. straily struck out seven in six innings, king felix dominateses, lasted 8 third-1/3, and the fifth, the two-run shot. then the solo shot. straily allowed three runs on six hits. bottom nine, tying run at the plate. fernando rodney strikes out josh reddick. a's lose, now 23-on the season. afterwards, bob melvin impressed with flex herb -- felix hernandez. >> we started to get some good swings at the end genes him but for seven innings, that's as good as we have seen. >> more disappointed with myself than the second one than the first one. it what it is. >> college hoops. women

kareem abdul-jabbar supporting magic johnson and his club. bumgarner got the win. struck out ten. the fifth, two men on for pablo sandoval. lines to left, first of the year. panda with the three-run blast. next batter, see ya. buster posey, took him 17 games to get one last year. giants win their fourth in a row, 72, improving to 5-1. >> not raining but doesn't mean then a's are going to play. oh, wait, they are. seattle in town. pitcher's duel early on. straily struck out seven in six innings. king felix dominating the a's. john jaso, one of eight strikeouts, centrally -- trailly, trouble in the fifth, and then almonte, the solo shot. bottom nine, two outs, tying run at the place bit fern unanimous derodney strikes out reddick to win. bob melvin was impressed with felix hernandez. >> i say for seven innings might be the best we have seen him, especially early on. a little more hop on his fast ball. we started to get some good swings against him, but for seven innings that's as good as we have seen him. >> more disappointed with myself with the second one than the first one. it is

it was kareem abdul-jabbar. you know he is quiet, reads a lot, tries to mind his own business, but what took place three days ago got the big fellow up, and he got on the road the last couple of days. he has been up half the night articulating his views, so i would like karim to come up and all the former lakers to stand beside him. >> thank you, mayor kevin. i don't know if i'm going to ever get used to that, but thank you so much. >> i just want to say if i start stuttering, it's because i haven't gotten much sleep in the past couple of days. this really bothered me. i'm just thrilled with what commissioner silver did. he got on the case immediately and got to the bottom of whatever mysteries that there were involved in this, and figured out what the truth was and his actions and focus were so on the mark, it was unbelievable. you should have heard us in there when we were listening to the press conference. we all started clapping because he handled it the right way. i'm so happy that he did that, and it's goi

obviously kareem abdul-jabbar and magic. but i think broadly the owners need to come out and to shun him as a fellow owner, to say this has no place in our league, this is not something we stand for, this is not what the nba's a about. and i don't think that type of condemnation has occurred yet and i would look for that to come from both the owners universally and the commissioner tomorrow. >> and if they don't do that tomorrow going into the next game, if they don't do that in a way that is firm and that is economically accountable, then what? >> i think that as magic said, it is absolutely essential that the players come together to protest this. people have compared it to muhammad ali. nobody is questioning somebody going to jail. nobody's talking about taking away people's livelihood. nobody's saying that somebody's going to be forced to go to a war. this is not a comparison to muhammad ali. what we are saying is players as men, as multimillionaires, as very prominent citizens in america, need to stand up collectively a

hall-of- famer kareem abdul-jabbar once worked for sterling and the clippers. did that sound like his voice? >> it sounded like him to me. it really did. i wasn't surprised, because i was just aware of his track record of discrimination suits against minority people trying to rent some of his properties. >> reporter: in 2009 sterling paid a record $2.7 million to settling a housing lawsuit claiming he discriminated against african-american and hispanic renters. and today, the naacp rescinded a lifetime achievement award it was planning on giving sterling next month. l.a. chapter president, leon jenkins, explained why sterling was initially picked. >> his organization gave more money to the community... to the minority community than others. >> reporter: so far, more than a dozen sponsors have cut ties with the clippers including carmax, corona and mercedes benz, and scott, the n.b.a. has now hired an audio forensics expert to listen to the voice on that recording and try to determine that if it is, in fact, that of donald sterling. >> reporter: and we'll hear f

. >> kareem abdul-jabbar said this.e worked for sterling in 2000 and wrote this about his former employer. quote, the poor guy's girlfriend undoubtedly ex-girlfriend now is on tape cajoling him into revealing his racism. man, what a winding road she led him down to get all of that out. she was like a sexy nanny playing -- okay. this is not the part of the thing i wanted to do. what kareem was saying, the part that i thought was fascinating was we're shocked and stunned now that we've got this guy on tape. and, you know, what's going to happen. we're going to attack him and then the parade is going to move on. when the bigger question is why didn't they address this a decade ago? >> a decade ago? how about a couple of decades ago? there's been seemingly indifference toward what donald sterling is for at least two decades among other nba owners. now, that might be oddly enough it might be the result of the fact that the other nba owners were pleased to have such a layup when they'd play the l.a. clippers. i mean, he was a

. >> among the former nba stars watching at announcement in los angeles former lakers great kareem abdul jabbar>> his actions and focus were so on the mark. it was so unbelievable. you should have heard us listen together press conference we started clapping because he handled it the right way. >> i am banning mr. sterling. for life. i hope that every bigot in this country sees what happens and recognizes if he can fall, so can you. >> doc rivers trying to deal with the issue and coach his team. nba coaches normally meet with media 90 minutes before tip off he held a news conference at the staples center. >> i don't think this is something that we rejoice in or anything like that. you know, i told players about the decision. and you know, i think they were just happy that it was a resolution and it's over. at least the start of it to be. >> mark jackson spoke with the media just minutes ago addressing the possibility of the league-wide playoff boycott. there was a real chance warrior woz not have taken the court tonight. >> i'm not sure if there is discussion between two teams i'd probably say

>> you know who said this best was kareem abdul-jabbar. it seems we have more to fear from tmz than the nsa. i think what mark is talking about what happens if you would secretly tape nba players when they are talking about gays entering the sport? what would you hear then or what they were talking about the cheer leaders or what they were going to do after the game? what kind of language would you hear in a locker room, would be positively frightening? i'll use the word -- that's the ss, everybody is vulnerable to being secretly taped. that ges to the second wave of this story. is the girlfriend going to be arrested? because most people do feel that she's kind of gross what she did. it seems like this was planned as bigoted as he is, this was probably planned and he seemed kind of medicated. i would know. it's like will she be arrested? did she break the law in california? >> she did in california. so katie, i think she knew that he felt this way, so she deliberately tape-recorded him because she wanted some kind of revenge or whatever he

. >> among the former nba stars watching at announcement in los angeles former lakers great kareem abdul jabbar were so on the mark. it was so unbelievable. you should have heard us listen together press conference we started clapping because he handled it the right way. >> i am banning mr. sterling. for life. i hope that every bigot in this country sees what happens and recognizes if he can fall, so can you. >> doc rivers trying to deal with the issue ad coach his team. nba coaches normally meet with media 90 minutes before tip off he held a news conference at the staples center. >> i don't think this is something that we rejoice in or anything like that. you know, i told players about the decision. and you know, i think they were just happy that it was a resolution and it's over. at least the start of it to be. >> mark jackson spoke with the media just minutes ago addressing the possibility of the league-wide playoff boycott. there was a real chance warrior woz not have taken the court tonight. >> i'm not sure if there is discussion between two teams i'd probably say yes. there was. when you

former nba great kareem abdul-jabbar, said his comments made him doubt what progress had been made in america. president obama did not share that view. we've made enormous strides. he hope one reason he hoped statements stand out like this so much is because there's been a shift in how we view their selves. and yes we have and good for him for saying so. >> you hear the president's comments broadening this out. what do you think this incident says about the debate about race? >> i think it will continue to feed into that the debate about racial preferences. you remember the argue made by justice soto mayor. because there is still preferences in america, we cannot excuse it. >> a grim conversation with a congressman in trouble with the law. >> fox 4 in dallas toyota moving its headquarters to plano, texas. the decision will affect about 4,000 employees who currently work in california, kentucky, and new york. >>> fox 40 in sacramento to the answer who the mystery man who rescued tahoe the bear cub. the man called who said he found the cub crying next to the body of a large bear. >>> li

kareem abdul jabbar said he is not surprised but donald sterling and magic johnson says he has to go. will this make any bit of difference? >> it's going to make a difference in the fact that he will end up going but you know, putting this in perspective, having done this been in professional sports journalist for 40 something years, don, i'm telling you something that donald sterling is not the only evener that i've ever encountered or general manager with these type of thoughts. he is one of the few owners who has gotten caught saying these things out there in the open. and that's the thing. it's almost like gambling in the piano bar, cold "casablanca" line. that's not the shocking part. the shocking part is the fact that it got out there some kind of way. people are reacting to it as well as they should, but to think that he is the only one and that he is some sort of a rarity here, the exception to the rule would be foolhardy on the part of everyone else out there. >> why do people stand by and i'm not a sports aficionado, i don't know that much about donald sterling before this,

kareem abdul-jabbar in the house supporting magic johnson's new name.adison bumgarner got the win allowing two runs in 6 1/3 innings. struck out ten. got plenty of help from his offense. fourth inning, michael morris. first home run as a giant. made it a two-run game. in the fifth two men on for pablo sandoval. panda ropes one to left. first of the year. next batter, buster, see ya. second of the year from posey. giants win three in a row. improving to 5-1. >>> after checking with our abc weather app, no rain, oakland a's hosting seattle, good old-fashioned pitcher's duel. dan straily struck out seven in six innings of work. meanwhile, king felix hernandez once again dominating the a's. one of eight strikeouts. hernandez went 8 1/3. straily in trouble in the fifth. ackley two-run shot. two batters later, abraham amonte, solo shot. straily allowed three runs on six hits. bottom ninth, final run at the plate. k a's lose it 3-1. 2-3 on the season. >> i'm more disappointed with the second one than the first one. but it is what it is. good job ex-kueecuting

and kareem abdul-jabbar said this -- >> i'm just thrilled with what commissioner silver did. he got on the case immediately, and his actions and focus were so on the mark, it was unbelievable. you should have heard us in there when we were listening to the press conference. we all started clapping because he handled it the right way. >> to force steriling to sell his team, the commissioner has to get the support of three-quarters of the owners. that's 23 teams. and our tally indicates that he appears to have already met that threshold with 25 time teams voicing support for his move today. the owner of the heat says great job, adam. you have my full support. the laker president said, the commissioner, quote, showed great leadership in his condemnation of the horrible and offensive comments. the owner of the chicago bulls said, we will support his recommendations to press for mr. steriling to relength kwiinquis ownership. and what about donald sterling himself? there's been no official response from him yet. but we do know he won't be watching his clippers home playoff game ton

we heard words like historic to describe today's decision, the great kareem abdul-jabbar said this is a turning day. is this a turning moment in sports? >> i think so. what adam silver did was outstanding. was personally so proud of him, the way he stood up, not just for the players and owners but how he stood up for people in general to really level -- i just think in coming down with the decision that he came down with really put everybody at east, like you talked about before. because at the end of the day, everything that happened up to this point has been wrong, that everything that came out of donald sterling's mouth. and you're right, there's no room in sports, there's in room in society actually for this type of behavior and bigotry and racism. it shouldn't exist but unfortunately it exists in some people's mind. racism is taught. 's not inherit. we got to do the best we can to eradicate that. >> thank you. david, to you next. after the commissioner's decision, there seemed to be a collective sigh of relief from the players, the league, the leaders. almost like they were expec

past and present stars have called for his removal, including michael jordan, kareem abdul-jabbar, lebronames, and kobe bryant. magic johnson spoke out to espn. understand -- you cannot understand how hurt i was , and for all african-americans and minorities. silver doesioner all of his due diligence, get , hethe information gathered has to come down hard. you should not own a team anymore, and he should stand up and say i do not want to own a team anymore. --on monday, a dozen teams companies announced that they would stop their support of the clippers. the clippers next game is tonight at home in los angeles. on sunday, the team staged a silent protest by wearing their bench jerseys inside out, stacking their warm-up jackets at center court. the miami heat followed suit on monday night with a similar move. players are considering taking further action tonight, but their response could be shaped by the pending announcement. commissioner adam silver has called for a news conference on tuesday afternoon to announce the league's response. that could range from a large fine to a suspension t

captain, the one and only -- y'all can go ahead and clap. [ applause ] i'm going to bring up kareem abdul-jabbar. [ cheers and applause ] when you think about what magic johnson means to this league, there was one man that influenced him early in his career. and it was kareem abdul-jabbar. you know he's quiet, reads a lot, tries to mind his own business. but what took place three days ago got the big fella up, and got on the road the last couple days. he's been up half the night articulating his views. so i'd like kareem to come up, and all the former lakers to stand beside him. [ applause ] >> thank you, mayor kevin. i don't know if i'll ever get used to that. but thank you so much. i just want to say, if i start stutter erg, it's because i haven't gotten much sleep in the past couple of days. because this really bothered me. but i'm just thrilled with what commissioner silver did. he got on the case immediately. he got to the bottom of whatever mysteries that there were involved in this. and figured out what the truth was. and his actions and focus were so on the mark. it was unbelievable. you

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today mark jackson, doc rivers and kareem abdul-jabbar gave reactions to the ongoing drama. >> i'm sure the right thing will be done and it will be done swiftly. so i'm not concerned about it. believe me, the people that i know in this league, commissioner on down, they are not satisfied and feel just as disgusted in these comments as everyday folks. >> you want to see sterling tossed? >> the commissioner is going to make the proper decision. >> it's the plantation model, chris. in the plantations, you had men from africa making money for cotton growers. you had women from africa being sexually exploited by cotton growers an the whole time they look down on them with contempt as infeeriorinferiors. i think mr. sterling adopted that as his methodology. that's how he treats the people around him. it's so unfortunate. we have to take several steps away from this guy. >> i can't tell you how upset i am, our players are. players are trying to keep their focus and doing their job. you know one of the things i told them, the way to keep it alive is by continue to win. if you want to make a sta

. >> interesting you use that word "outrage" that was a word that came up in a piece by kareem abdul-jabbar who used to work for donald sterling, and dom, what he was saying is that what bothers him about the whole donald sterling up there, if indeed these are his remarks, is the fact that everyone acts like it's a huge surprise, because kareem says he has a track record of discrimination. >> it's interesting, too, you're referring to the "time" op-said piece that he wrote, and he says -- it's interesting. the outrage is obviously a big concern in this, but again it's about changing the culture of sports. there are these -- and at least thoughts, i guess that this exists as part of the game. nobody is saying that nobody is not outraged by what's happening here, but again, what this will come down to is whether or not the overall game is going to be impacted and what kind of option there is, remember a forced sail of a team is viewed by many as a nuclear option. as sponsors pull their money, the value also goes down as well. >> a lot of sponsors, of course are pulling out. remember yesterday

coming up here, nba legend kareem abdul-jabbar joins us live with his reaction. >> we're looking forwardo -- to some very positive changes that will make this city an even more wonderful place than it already is. >>> state of emergency. historic and deadly flooding pummeling the southeast today where more than two feet of water has been drenching the florida panhandle in the last 24 hours. worse than any hurricane the gulf coast has ever seen. >> we've been seeing some incredible pictures coming out of pensacola. florida's governor has just declared a state of emergency for 26 countiecounties. the florida panhandle really is at a standstill. >>> and rescue our ht

tomorrow we have kareem abdul jabbar. he has been involved for many years with politics. looking forward to talking with him. is the story over? okay, that's it? okay. sterling is done, finished whatever it will be how it unfolds. story done? >> no. no. the story is never over with donald sterling. he sued the league before. he moved here without the permission of the nba. according to what he told me before he knew his punishment. he is not giving up this team and he is not selling, perhaps he will try to work out a deal where his son-in-law or his wife. it isn't over but i think it's going to be so miserable at some point at some point he will see the light and end it. >> he is 82. just say hey, i'm going to give the league back what i think -- he could do anything. is the story over as far as the players are concerned? mr. mobley, do you think the story is over as far as the players are concerned? >> >> i don't think it's over. i think, you know, listen, we love basketball and we love our fans. all around the league. you know. and, you know, they make us and, you know,

by fans and many of the players who you just heard in that news conference, kevin johnson, kareem abdul-jabbar, steve nash and many others that are here in los angeles and have been pushing for drastic action. all along players and fans have really said that despite, you know, whether it be a suspension or ban for life, a huge fine, it doesn't really matter. the end game was that they did not want donald sterling to be owner of the team anymore, and that's because they thought players would leave and fans would boycott the team and sponsors, many of chom would already left would not be returning to the team and there would be no way for the team to function. this is just one step in the process. we have to say we don't know at this point, and commissioner silver said if sterling is willing to sell his team, if that's not the case, silver said that with a vote of three-quarters of the nba owners, he would be able to force sterling out. this was something we didn't know if they could do the nba constitution is private. it was interesting to have silver share that information. he says he does hav

. >> want you to listen to these words from the great kareem abdul-jabbar. >> racism is the true enemy another jerk with more money than brains. let that sink in for a second. joining us from atlanta, terrence moore columnist for mlb.com. david cornwell is a prominent sports attorney. gentlemen, a pleasure to have you here to discuss this. john and i have been spending a lot of time off air discussing this whole mess. the best word we can use for it. in this mess maybe donald sterling has done something positive by opening a discussion about race in pro sports and race in america. what are your thoughts? we'll start with you, terrence. >> there's no doubt about that. this has been going on forever. racism in life, racism in sports. and it always gets me. people talk about donald sterling is treating his players like they are commodities. this has always been the case. major league baseball had the reserve clause which was legalized slavery where this didn't have anything to do with just black players but white players were bound to a team forever more. that's always been the case. you

but some people still don't get that tonight, we'll talk it over with kareem abdul jabbar. >> also coming on basketball racism and watters goes to harlem to find out what the fo

is the equivalent of michael jordan and kareem abdul-jabbar rolled into one.s one of the owners of the franchises. of sports stars, no there is a transition going on. about sportsed stars leaving? class i think it is overblown. in any transition, there are always people who decide they want to do something else. if you have the people, they always have an opportunity to go somewhere else. it is part of a natural ecology in business. i do not make it will affect the trajectory of where ing is going or what you guys will do with ing. class it is a unique is this representing sports stars. there are other places now for athletes to go. jay-z with his agency. class he has done really well. it is a small part of what ing does, the representation of athletes. the much eager part of what we recently, we. more have tried to leverage all the intellectual poverty we have got to gettings an event equity ownership in emerging leaves and emerging companies. we think that is the value. good to see you again. the chairman will return in two minutes. ♪ classes time for our we

kareem abdul-jabbar was 42 and i was 25 and the only reason he retired is because they made him a andtaught me how to eat well. the edge in any kind of sport really does not make that kind of difference. one of the first things that will ever happen to you is you have to be able to replenish your muscles and get right back. that means getting the right amount of protein. and itve in hemp protein helps me get all of my blood flow. it's important that you know exactly how your body works. cultureere a different in the nba versus the mlb that we have not heard all of these reports? >> we are taller. if you played 140 games and you played every day and you have to get on stage, it's like a broadway show. would you really care if somebody and "the book of mormon" was on steroids? you just want to be entertained. >> you think it should be allowed? >> whatever it takes to put on the show. the show must go on. >> what about people who say that's unfair because you are gaining an unfair advantage over another player? >> just like josÉ canseco said, it was fair because everyone was doing it. no

. >> reporter: basketball legend kareem abdul-jabbar was a sichbt coach for the clippers in 2000. >> when you go to that great of length to discriminate against people, there must be something in it for you. either you enjoy it or it's a power thing. if it's true, i don't think he's fit to be an nba owner. >> reporter: amidst an increasing number of calls for sterling's removal, dallas mavericks owner mark cuban warned against any precedent the move might set. >> it's a slippery slope when you start trying to remove people from the nba or any organization based off of their private thoughts that they have at home. >> reporter: if sterling is forced out, magic johnson is reportedly interested in the team. but the lakers legend danced around the question. >> the team is owned by a man already. >> reporter: and that man is under fire at every turn. while everyone waits for the nba to act. >> if nothing happens, then you can boycott it in the off-season and not just the clippers, the whole league has to. because if he's not thrown out, you've got to do something. >> reporter: los angeles

more with the former nba star, kareem abdul jabbar joining us los angeles behind the film "on the shoulders of giants" about the all-black team, harlem ravens and the role in the civil rights movement. a powerful, powerful film. joined by rachel nickels in new york. >> you worked for donald sterling, you said you were aware of his track record, you wrote a piece about it. you and others suggesting it's taken way too long to punish this guy. so what's going on here? >> well, i think the fact that mr. sterling understood that his views might not be received very well, gave him the incentive to keep it under wraps and this recording, like pulled down the mask, so to speak. we have this situation that we have. >> how surprised were you when you heard those audiotapes? >> i wasn't very surprised because of the thing that you mentioned earlier where he was discriminating against people who wanted to rent some of his properties. and the only reason that they couldn't rent the properties, they were the wrong color or wrong ethnicity. that's not what america's supposed to be about. >> his estranged

magic johnson, kareem abdul-jabbar and on and on.ohnson, former great, now the mayor of sacramento called this a defining moment for the national basketball association. i mean, it is clear players are not going to settle for anything less than him getting the maximum penalty. what do you think that should be? >> well, you know, it's not for me to decide that, you know. i think initially there will be a fine and maybe a period of suspension. of course, it's pretty hard to fine somebody worth close to $2 billion, but i think there will be a lot of pressure behind the scenes for him to sell the team. >> and, you know, that's going to raise some questions as well about, you know, to what extent we're talking about somebody who is going through a difficult divorce. the way in which this recording came about in the first place. how relevant is that going to be to the way that this is played out, leaving the court of public opinion aside. was that a legal recording to make? and how is that process carried out? >> one of the problems is the

kareem abdul-jabbar said "i'm not surprised."s who this guy is. we haven't authenticated the tapes yet. but if it is, in fact, him, the question now with the nba is what do you do? what standard do you set if he's distasteful, but can you strip a team away from a guy and how do you do it? >> well, mark shot with the cincinnati reds -- i remember her name and story plastered everywhere. she was shamed and eventually got that team taken away from her. >> that's how you do it. the other owners will get on him and say you've got to get out of our league. i said magic johnson is the face of the league. lebron james is the face of the league and he came out immediately in a postgame interview and said he should not be in our league, donald sterling. >> the team plays tomorrow. i'm curious to see if the fans will turn their jerseys, their shirts inside-out as well to show solidarity for the players because they're in the playoffs and they worked hard to get there, but to distance themselves from the owner. i don't know what the nba is g