gaiter graph has a new book "the threat matrix" the fbi war, and author karen arm onstrong has as a self-help "12 steps to a compassionate life." >> caller: hi, thank you. i've enjoyed the book talk a great deal. i wanted to point out there's still a certain digital divide in the country. there are people who can't afford computers or books or internet access or live in places where internet access is not convenient. and i would just like you to remind people that they can get most of these books from their local library -- even if they have to put it on a waiting list. >> host: thank you. >> caller: and they can also get computer access and instructions on how to use a computer and how to use these various sources from their local librarians. that's what they are their for. that's what people pay taxes for. >> host: thank you. jenn risko? >>> >> guest: you know, libraries are in the business of providing information and contact to their communities. if you can't afford an ipad or a new book, go to the library and put your name on the waiting list and wait for the book you've been waiting for