where potentially everyone involved is our enemy. >> joining me now is congresswoman karen bass. congresswoman, thank you so much for being with me today. and let's go ahead and start with today's vote, that authorization to train and arm syrian rebels. how do you plan to vote this afternoon? >> you know, that's an excellent question. i will tell you that i am still conflicted. i have a couple more meetings to go. and my conflict centers on sy a syria, centers on who is it that we actually are going to train. and there's a number of us, i think, that have that same concern. we want to support the president in a way, we don't feel there's any great options here. but is this the best option? that's the question. i have a few more hours before i decide to how i'm going to vote today. >> and congresswoman, what sort of assurances could you receive that would get you to that yes vote? >> well, i think more specificity on who the rebels are that we would be arming and training. there's a lot of concern about that. because you know what the stories have been that some of these rebels ha

. >>> i want to bring in democratic congresswoman karen bass of california. secretary of state john kerry will testify before that very committee on thursday. representative, thank you for being with us. i want to follow what kelly was talking about moments ago. that is the equipping of the free syrian army. this is what rand paul had to say about that idea. >> it's a mistake to arm them. most of the arms we've given to so called moderate weapons have wound up in the hands of isis because they have taken it or we mistaken by give it to some of the radicals. >> what is your thought about rand paul's reaction to the idea? >> let me tell you i believe that the question of arming and training the free syrian army is a controversial part. there might be, as kelly said, wide spread support. there's a number of people on both sides of the aisle, myself included, that are concerned in terms of the vetting. who is the free syrian army that we would be training? rand paul referenced them giving their arms yesterd s away. yesterday i was in an unclassified briefing abou

thank you, congresswoman, karen bass for being with me. appreciate your time. >>> and another note from overseas. this time from eastern ukraine. cease-fire is still in place this morning despite shelling near donetsk threatening the troops. ukrainian poroshenko announced he'll visit the port city of mariupol. >>> coming up we'll move the conversation beyond the beltway. we'll go to los angeles to see how one local leader to mike sure more americans aren't recruited to the isis fight. the congresswoman brought it up and we're going it talk about. . regardless of inaction in washington, the fight on the front lines of the immigration debate continue. i'll talk to a pastor offering an undocumented immigrant sanctuary in his church. i've always loved exploring and looking for something better. that's the way i look at life. especially now that i live with a higher risk of stroke due to afib, a type of irregular heartbeat, not caused by a heart valve problem. i was taking warfarin, but wondered if i kept digging, could i come up with something

joining me now, congresswoman karen bass, democrat of california, and former pennsylvania governor ed rendell. thank you both for being here. >> thank you. >> good evening. >> congresswoman, you were in that hearing today. i mean, what do you think when your republican colleagues went after the president in the discussion on isis? >> well, i think truth be told, i think they can't help themselves. but i do have to tell you that i don't think that characterized the overall hearing. and then the proof is in the pudding. the vote happened yesterday and it's very clear that the majority of congress supported the president's proposal. and so i think that characterizes the entire situation. >> governor, the american people support action against isis but not ground troops. and that's the president's approach. so why are so many republicans going out of their way to criticize him? >> they're wrong. they misread the american people. the things that you talked about, bringing up benghazi at the hearing like this, that sickens the american people. we used to be a country when we were threatened

. >> we'll go to karen bass of ofifornia, ranking member the subcommittee. >> thank you. like my colleague representative meeks, i also took a redifficult vote and voted for the amendment because i didn't see another alternative. some people that are unhappy with my vote believe that there is another approach and another strategy, other than air strikes and arming the rebels, so i twoght i would ask you quick questions much why orebody there a diplomatic political approach or strategy to address isil and what are the natons learned from the intervention in libya and how are the lessons being applied to today? thank you. >> well, first of all, the america has aof firm policy which i believe is the right policy that we don't terrorists.th and i can think of a group that modern dayining of terrorism than this group. thatdly, there is nothing they want that you can negotiate about. they want, they have decreed a i fat -- cal i fate. is marauding, buying young women, selling them, them, people, killing anybody who isn't them, you can be killed. genocidists.ed and they went aft

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