dana, the thing that surprised me the most, karen bass is a member of the democratic leadership. she's a very important member of congress. she doesn't know what nancy pelosi is going to say in less than two hours. do you? >> it makes me feel better not being able to get it. >> we all expect a big reveal. >> exactly. they're being very careful in pelosi world. people who i've been communicating with this morning close to her about what she's going to say. and warning not to speculate too much. karen bass says they haven't even started discussing in the broader committee drafting articles of impeachment is noteworthy. the way nancy pelosi tends to operate is that she will consult with people, but also take one step at a time. and is very cautious especially on something like this. it's hard to imagine she won't because of where we are in the

she left the door open for a potential change. >> karen bass did. >> karen bass. she said if the white house participates, it will slow things down. i don't think anybody is holding their breath for the white house to participate in anything that has to do with the house. but we are at a critical time. the witnesses have been heard from. the intelligence committee, both sides have put out their reports of what they think is or is not impeachable. and they're going to present, we do know -- we believe that the lawyers for each pseudoin the intelligence committee are going to present their findings to the judiciary committee. their next step if they're going to move forward is draft the articles of impeachment. >> jeffrey toobin, you're in d.c. this morning. what has nancy pelosi told you about what she's going to say? >> hold on, wait. nancy? no. can i say something about yesterday just before we -- >> yes, you may. >> there was a lot of talk. oh, it's going to be a circus. it wasn't a circus. it was a serious discussion on a serious subject. and i thought both sid

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i do want to just acknowledge the chairwoman of the congressional black caucus, karen bass, who had to leave and left her comments and asked me to read them so i'm going to do that. and she begins by talking about the special order hour tonight and the support that we need to give to our historically black colleges and universities and minority-serving institutions. congress, she says, must provide mandatory funding for these institutions. fighting for historically black colleges and universities is one of the congressional black caucus' highest priorities because hbcu's are critical contributors to the strength of the black community and to our country. many members of our caucus, the c.b.c. caucus, have attended great hbcu's, such as american baptist church, fisk university, florida a&m, howard university, jackson state university, moorhouse college, north carolina a&t, north carolina central, prairie view a&m university, south carolina state, texas southern university, tupelo college, tuskegee university, virginia state university virginia union university, wiley college among other

and it's hypocritical. >> congresswoman karen bass. thank you for joining me. karen bass of california is the chair of the congressional black caucus and she is a member of the house judiciary committee. >>> coming up, new polling in the race for the democratic nomination shows senator elizabeth warren losing some ground ahead of tonight's debate. >>> plus, 2020 democratic candidate mike bloomberg defends some of his most controversial moves as mayor of new york in an exclusive interview with our own stephanie ruhle. that is what is next. you are watching msnbc. as a struggling actor,ng mc i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchumal- cut. liberty biberty- cut. we'll dub it. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ mornings were made for better things than rheumatoid arthritis or psoriatic arthritis. when considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz xr, a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis or active ps

karen bass -- karen, so good of you to come to this, karen. she is the chair of the congressional black caucus at the national level. she's also chair of the africa subcommittee of the foreign affairs committee. awfully good to have you here, karen, and let me mention some of the members of the fort monroe authority because those previous governors appointed them and they've been wonderful. our finance -- state secretary brian ball, resources secretary ma matt strickler, of course senator mamie locke who everybody knows. doesn't she look resplendent today? holy smokes. mary bunting is on the authority. she's the city manager of hampton. dr. rex ellis, who had a major role in the establishment of the national museum of african-american history, every single one of you need to go through that museum if you have not and we are every day making a closer connection with that museum. dr. ed ares. i don't know if any of you have watched the public broadcasting series on reconstruction, but ed is continually interviewed and he does such a terrific job

representative karen bass and from missouri. speaker of the house of delegates, first counsel for the embassy of wanda. the former virginia governor, the former virginia governor robert mcdonald, the former missouri governor greitens, former representatives james moran and mf payne, members of the governors cabinet, members of the virginia general assembly, including senate majority leader thomas norment, portsmouth mayor john wrote, the members of the 400 years african american history federal museum, deputy assistant secretary of fish and wildlife parks, national parks service officials, including daniel smith and david vella, members of the hampton city council and other special guests. on behalf of the members of the hampton city council, our city staff, and the residents of this great city, it is my honor to welcome you to old point comfort, freedoms fortress, fort monroe, and now fort monroe national monument in hampton, virginia. today's hamptons is a historic city that is 409 years old. i often tell visitors we don't loo

congresswoman karen bass, thank you for being with us. for a quick analysis on the impeachment, let's bring in two political strategists, republican rina shah and democrat felipe rein. as we're looking at the impeachment, one of the strikes things to me is when we watched the hearings, the republicans never really addressed the issues of whether or not the president had in fact held the money back, the military aid that was approved, and held it back as leverage to try to get the president of ukraine to smear his potential opponent, joe biden and his son. they went through a lot of name-calling, went through trying to attack biden, but never really addressed the issue at hand. is that a concession that they know the president did it and that he's guilty, so there's no reason to argue that? what gives why they did not make a legal argument against what was being alleged and finally ended up in the two articles of impeachment? >> well, these congressional republicans who support the president know they're going to go farther with a nonlegal

joining me now is democratic congresswoman karen bass from california who serves on the house judiciarygoing to ask you, congresswoman, good to see you. what are your next steps? >> well, bright and early on monday morning we are going to have a hearing. and that hearing is going to involve a presentation from the intelligence committee about their findings. so we will be examining the evidence. yesterday we were looking at the constitution, the framers, what they had in mind. but on monday we'll be actually looking at the evidence. and i think we will probably do that for a couple of days, and then we will take it from there. whether we get to writing articles or not, we'll take it one step at a time. >> let's talk about the question, the discussion that is ongoing about whether or not or why or not to include elements from the mueller report into the report. i just want to read you from the "wall street journal," a reporting about representative alyssa slotkin from michigan who said she hadn't decided how to vote on impeachment but would advise a kitchen sink approach that included mu

congresswoman karen bass from california. we appreciate you taking the time this morning. >> thank you. >> so we're about a month into the formal impeachment process here. if you look at the polling, support -- public support for impeaching and removing the president from office did not budge an inch from before and after those public hearings. if we put the numbers up, 50% before the public hearings. it's 50% after. i just wonder, does this show us that democrats failed to make the case convincingly to the american people? >> oh, i don't think so at all. and we are still in the middle of the process. however, 50% of the people feel that the president should not just be impeached but removed. that is a profound number. you know if you look back to the clinton impeachment that it never got above 30% of the american public. so the fact that we are starting with 50%, i think it's huge. >> to be fair -- to be fair, and i do take your point, but to be fair, during the clinton impeachment, parties -- some members of the opposing he

but democrats have be from committee members karen bass and cedric richmond.rigins of the 2016 russia investigation. with all of this coming to a head, the president is singularly focused on the defining political moment ahead. >> it's a light bulb. they got rid of the light bulb that people got used to. the new bulb is many times for expensive. it doesn't make you look as good. [ laughter ] of course, being a vain person, that's very important to me. [ laughter ] it's like it gives you an orange look. i don't want an orange look. we have a situation where we are looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms where you turn the faucet on in areas where there is tremendous amounts of water, where the water rushes out to sea because you can never handle it. and you don't get any water. you turn on the if you sayet and you don't get any water. they take a shower and water comes dripping out, just very quietly dripping out. people are flushing toilets ten times, 15 times as opposed to once. they end up using more water. the so epa is lo

commemoration possible and traveled here today, especially my distinguished colleague from california karen bass. it is. >> you can't image were the ones that came here 400 years ago could not imagine a representative representing a caucus of 55 members speaking at the recognition of this day so i want to give karen bass another round of applause for being with us today. >> also i want to welcome the commissioners on the 400 years of african-american history commission. senator kaine was generous at giving everybody credit but himself, of course, it was his leadership that gave this commission. give senator kaine another round of applause. slavery first arrived on our shores right here 400 years ago, the forced labor of enslaved africans and their accident descendants and that's a part of our complicated history with which we continue to wrestle. over the past 400 years, descendants and others who followed the first 20 and odd africans made contribution to all aspects of american history. as we continue to work in addressing inequality and education, incarceration and criminal justice system, in

possible and who traveled with us today, especially my distinguished colleague from california, karen bass. [ applause ] it is -- you can't imagine ones that came here 400 years ago could not imagine representative representing a caucus with 55 members speaking at the recognition of this phase, so i want to give karen bass another round of applause for being with us today. [ applause ] i also want to welcome the member, the commissioners on the 400 years of the african-american commission. senator kaine was very generous at giving everyone credit but himself, of course, it was his vision and leadership. give senator kaine another round of applause f. slavery first arrived on our shores right here 400 years ago, the 4th labor of enslaved africans and their descend ants built this nation and a part of the complicated history with which we continue to wres him. over the past 400 years descendants and others followed the first 20 odd african-americans continue in american history. as we continue to work in addressing inequality and education, incarceration and criminal justice system, income i

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congresswoman karen bass made similar comments, but walked them back and added this. >> the committeeseen investigating and providers oversight will continue to do their work. when we sent the articles of impeachment over to the senate, we find it's possible we learn new information, especially court cases their making their ways through the court. >> this impeachment may be wrapping up, but don't get too comfortable? here to discuss is zach petkannis, and historic selinger. why are some teasing this idea that impeachment isn't just a one-time thing? >> no prosecutor would ever tell a criminal, like, i know with you insited you once. if donald trump continues to engage, that's what he can expect. i would really hope --, by trump using military -- >> too late, sir. julian, to impeach or -- that continues to be the question. is this a realistic process? >> it is realistic, even though politically, you can see why democrats wouldn't want to do it again. the democrats will still be under the control of the -- the president is the same person, and he will be in the next few years. he now th

joining us now democratic congresswoman karen bass of california, a member of the judiciary committee. thank you so much for coming in. >> thanks for having me. >> so you cast two of the most important votes you will cast earlier today in the house judiciary committee in favor of the two articles of impeachment. take us into the room. what was going through your mind? >> sure. myself and my other colleagues, i think we all felt sad. we felt sad that it had come to this. but in addition to feeling sad, i also feel a little fearful. because i'm always worried as to how the president is going to react and what is he going to do. will he do something erratic like pulling the troops out of syria or how will he respond? >> why do you fear -- in response to the impeachment you think? >> well i just worry that when he's backed against a corner he tends to make erratic decisions or do erratic things and since there are so many people not around him now, everybody around him is kind of there temporarily but the caucus and the democrats and we all talked before we went out to cast our votes and

try and help him cheat in the election.ou that is where we begin leading off our dis cushion is karen bass of california. a member of that house judiciary committee. good evening to you. >> good evening. >> we saw a lot and americans all over the place were watching what happened in the house judiciary hearings. when you take it all together, what do you think people should focus on and understand just happened? >> i hopest that people focus o the gravity of this. i mean this was just an incredibly important day in our mystery. but understanding how serious it was that the president abuse the power of the offices for his own personal gain and to make it worse, he did it in order to fix or put a weight on the next election in his favor. and if you go back and look at the history a of when the constitution was being put together, impeachment was inserted in. this is exactly what the framers were concerned about. foreign intervention, especially in an election. and a president who would take his authority to beyond -- to an extreme and use it in an abusive manner and that's exactly what has h

the democratic house judiciary committee member congresswoman karen bass with us right now.essman, thank you for taking the time. what is your sense of the thinking within your community that it would be a party line vote? >> i think unfortunately it will be a party line vote. i don't have any indication that my republican colleagues are going to break rank. i think they are in it very tough position because they know if they did do that, it would be the end of their career. >> neil: what about from some of your more moderate members outside of your committee? some of those in the district that the president won. what are you hearing about them? >> well i think they are rock solid. i know there are a couple that are thinking of voting against it but you know we have several of those marginal members on the committee and i know in terms of the democrats on the committee that we are 100% united. this is definitely not a day to celebrate. this is a solemn day. all of us feel an incredible burden of history knowing this is just the third time that this process has happened in u.

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are you going to, as some of your colleagues, karen bass and others have spoken to this, going back to the mueller report and folding any of that in and having a separate article of impeachment that refers to that, or is this going to be single focus, ukraine? >> we want to keep it as simple as possible, and also recognize the urgency of an upcoming election that the president invoked in that july 25 call. that's why we have put pressure on ourselves to move fairly but also to move swiftly. now, the president's conduct with russia and that investigation shows that he has priors, and that a leopard doesn't change his spots. the way he invited a foreign government in the past is exactly what he's doing here. the way he obstructed the mueller investigation is exactly what he's doing here. i don't think it's been determined yet whether that will be an article of impeachment. i can just say personally, anything we have to keep it as simple as possible for the american people to understand. and andrea, most people in their communities know that if a police chief went to a mayor and said, i'v

for more i'm joined by democratic congresswoman karen bass who's a pro, and of course she serves on theiary. how can a chairman -- i watched chairman nadler sitting there and he always seems a little bit surprised by their misbehavior, but they are going to be doing points of order like joe mccarthy. we know it's coming. how do you fight with that crapola? >> oh, i think that the chairman is going to be very well prepared and very strong. he is not going to put up with the juvenile nonsense that you saw in the intel committee. and you know what, when you have members act like that, that is an act of desperation because they have nothing to challenge the report on the substance. >> well, congresswoman, while i have you, nothing stops those people behind the basket at an nba game from waving those crazy things around to screw up the guy doing the foul shot. these republicans will just say it shows they're desperate. now, they're just screwing up the foul shooter. they're skcrewing up the presentation of what nancy pelosi wants to be, solemn. how do you stop them? >> i think the chairman i

. >> that was democratic congresswoman karen bass of california making the case for impeachment. we'll continue to dip in and out throughout the markup. i should tell you soon i'll be joined by laurenance tribe who's one of the lawyers been asked to join for his advice and also took to a member of the u.s. senate who will be probably receiving this question very soon. right now i'll have our nick acroman weigh in on what we're hearing. we listened to the republican of colorado. this has been the theme here. the arguments are the process is terrible, they wanted to impeach him any, this whole thing is determined, and we're going to win again. very, very, very little about the facts or even a defense of the conduct. >> that's because they can't address the facts. i mean the facts are uncontested here and the facts are terrible for donald trump. i mean, there is no dispute that he was using almost $400 million of the peoples money to try and leverage against the ukrainian government to get them to announce an investigation into the bidens and to open an investigation into this crazy

here is what democratic congresswoman karen bass said today about mitch mcconnell's role as a juror.he's basically saying they're not going to deliberate because he's put his foot on the scale. he knows the outcome. the impeachment processes, we indict in the house and they have a trial in the senate. you don't have the foreman of the jury deliberating with the defendant, which is, you know, a way of describing what his role is. so it's corrupt, and it's hypocritical. >> joining us now is one of those jurors in the trump impeachment trial, senator mazy hirono of hawaii. thank you for joining us. i really appreciate it. >> good evening. >> i have to ask you a hawaii question first, and that was the extraordinary vote by hawaii congresswoman tulsi gabbard. she basically declined to vote on the articles of impeachment. she's the only one who voted present instead of yes or no. what was your reaction to that? >> i take it that she couldn't decide whether or not it was okay for the president to shakedown the president of another country for his own political ends using taxpayer money as a

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that comes from congresswoman karen bass of california. >> it just underscores what we have always knownh getting rid of trump. that all of those investigations from russia hoax to ukraine, all of those things have been about trying to find a crime and fit it somehow into this impeachment narrative. and they have never been able to come up with anything. it's sad. it shows that they are a party run by hate and they have run out of ideas. that's what i see when i hear that kind of stuff. they are willing to sacrifice winning in 2020. taking over or keeping their majority in the house. and winning over the senate because this is wildly unpopular where i live here in the middle of america, which is wisconsin and midwest. ainsley: something that is pretty popular at least was was the peloton bike and it looks like it's the latest victim of the cancel culture. stocks have plunged after that commercial down 12.4% since the commercial aired. company has lost $1.6 billion in market value. what are your thoughts? >> well, first of all, i own a peloton and, you know, i have been kind of chuckling