karen bass: thank you for having me.ost: how does this fit in with george floyd and breonna taylor, ahmaud arbery. karen bass: it is such a tragedy. one of the big differences is that he clearly engaged in a fight. and then he ran, and he turned around. it looks as though he turned around. but the question here is why were the police involved at all. it he had fallen asleep in a takeout line. why do they call the police on him and when they called the police on him, why did it escalate to the point of them engaging in a fight. and so you saw the community reaction. every time i see the violence it pains me. but i do think it raises questions about policing which is one of the things about the bill. the bill hopefully will raise discussions about standards and accountability and accreditation. etc. host: can we talk about training. i should've trained differently than the rest of us but it seems common sense that you would go tap on the window and say, hey buddy, are you okay. our call the tow truck. does the bill address

peoplenderstandable that would look and say --what about karen bass? if they were to call you, would you take the call? rep. bass: of course, i would take the call and i would be extremely honored. [laughter] jonathon: i had to ask. congresswoman karen bass from california, chair of the congressional black caucus, thank you very much for being here today. thank you.t woul washington journal come every day we are taking your calls on the issues. coming up tuesday morning, reuters supreme court reporter on mondays high profile rolling that lgbtq workers are protected from job discrimination. and on the ongoing impact of the pandemic on the economy and u.s. markets. and connecticut democratic senator richard blumenthal talks about stopping the spread of disinformation on social media. enforcement education foundation and former republican congresswoman -- congressman bob barr discusses police reform. watch c-span's washington journal live at 7:00 eastern tuesday morning. he sure to join the discussion with your phone calls, facebook comments, text messages

i now yield to the distinguished chairwoman of the congressional black caucus, karen bass. chairwoman bass: thank you, mr. chairman. next year will be the 50th anniversary of the congressional black caucus. 50 years ago, there were 13 members of the congressional black caucus, and one of them, representative metcalf, he was the one that came up with policies related to police abuse almost 50 years ago. so it is in their history and their legacy that we stand today to continue on, and i just want to thank all of my colleagues here today, because we are not in session today, and you came in specifically for this. i just want to thank you for being here and standing in solidarity with this legislation. let me say also that one of the beauties of this bill is that many members of the congressional black caucus have legislation, individual bills that are part of a larger bill because they've been working on it for so long. i just want to briefly mention their names and open it up for questions. representative sheila jackson lee, hank johnson, representative clay, john lewis, repr

here with the members of the congressional black caucus, house and senate, our distinguished chair karen bass, senator booker, senator harris, the distinguished democratic leader of the senate mr. schumer. we are gathered here in emancipation hall aptly named for those that built the capital, sadly. last summer, a number of us went to ghana to observe the 400th anniversary of the first slave coming across the atlantic. that tragedy, that horror of history, slavery in our own country, and all the consequences of that, we are here to observe that pain. we are here to respect the actions of the american people to speak out against that, specifically manifested in police brutality. we are here to honor george floyd. in a moment, we will have a moment of silence -- actually, eight minutes and 46 seconds of silence in honor of george floyd and so many others who lost their lives and were abused by police brutality. before that, i want to yield to the distinguished leader of the senate, mr. schumer. senator schumer: thank you, mr. adame speaker, and thank you for this profound and employment moment.

it is understandable that people would think, what about karen bass? if they were to call you, would you be interested? chairwoman bass: of course i would take the call and i would be extremely honored. ask,han: i've got to congresswoman karen bass, california chair of the congressional black caucus, thank you very much for being here today. chairwoman bass: thank you very much. >> president trump a campaign rally in tulsa, his first such event since march 2, after which rallies were curbed due to the coronavirus pandemic. watch that live at 8:00 p.m. eastern on c-span, c-span.org, or the freeseas fan you. the president, from public affairs. available now in paperback and e-book. president, of every organized by their rankings by noted historians, from best to worst, and features perspectives into the lives of our nation's chief executives. visit our website, c-span.org, to learn more about each president, and order your copy today. wherever books and e-books are sold. spangler is the washington correspondent for the detroit free press. he talks about w

congresswoman karen bass is the chair of the caucus. she reacted to this plan along with jerry nadler, the chair of the judiciary committee and other members today by saying it was inadequate. we don't need a study about chokeholds. we don't need a study about a warrant -- no-knock warrants and the rest. we know what we need to do. she is determined that we will act in a bipartisan -- congresswoman bass, determined to act as much as possible in a bipartisan way but we don't need a window dressing toothless bill. we need to take action that is real. and as mentioned in our legislation, we have strong provisions that ban chokeholds, that ban racial profiling, that ban a no-knock warrant, that have real data collection that is accessible and transparent from one department to the next. so it isn't about just recognizing. as she said, they have taken their lead from some of our pointers, but they have pulled their punch when it came to getting the job done, but it's a -- again, we never have seen hundreds of thousands of people day in and d

speaker pelosi: thank you very much, karen bass, for your tremendous leadership. under the leadership of karen bass, many of us had the privilege last year of going to ghana to observe the 400th anniversary of the first slaves going across the atlantic. there was no united states, but going across the atlantic, it was horrible. the kidnapping, the purchase of those slaves, the dungeons in which they were kept and if they survived that, to be on a slave ship, and if they survive for -- if they survived that, to be sold into slavery, and everything that came from that. when we were in selma, in march, we saw at bryan stephenson's -- one of his museum -- museum, a heartbreaking display of little children saying, "mama, mama, has anyone seen our mother?" these children separated from their mothers. the cruelty of that. that is why when george floyd called out for his mother when he was subjected to that knee in the neck, it was the continuation of some horror that has existed in our country for a very long time. our established leader, mr. clyburn, join karen bass, le

they are under karen bass and her leadership we under karen bass and her leadership we have a law thatthe neck ofa the law to put your foot on the neck of a person. it's against the law! you can't have a no knock law, it is against the law. you are going to have to wear your body cameras, it is against the law. the congressional black caucus is making a difference. but i believe there is one more thing that we ought to do to make a difference. we have reconciliation. this country has not reconciled its differences with us. we survived slavery but we didn't reconcile. we survive segregation but we didn't reconcile. we are suffering in bitterness and determination because we didn't reconcile. it is time for a department of reconciliation in the highest land, the highest office, it is time to have someone who is going to make in his or her business to seek reconciliation for black people and united states of america every day of his life! that's what this is all about. it is time for us to reconcile. we need a department of reconciliation. god bless you. i bless the united states of ameri

the judiciary committee -- and that would be karen bass, our chair, and jerry nadler, the chair of the judiciary committee. there is an array of bills that members have had in the hopper for a while. now, with the public sentiment where it is, the prospect for them becoming law is greatly increased. so i have respected the prioritizing that the caucus has done. the wrying of the legislation that the judiciary committee has done. as you said, any racial profiling, choke holds, and some things that seem so obvious, but nonetheless have been hard to turn into law, now we have that opportunity. president lincoln said public sentiment is everything. with it, you can accomplish almost anything. without it, practically nothing. and the public sentiment is there for us to do something transformative. i thank our congressional black caucus, john lewis, so many over the years who have advanced these very good solutions. >> the phrase "de-fund the police," madame speaker, as you probably know by now, it's a phrase that has already been seized upon by those on the other end of the political spectr

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have the chairperson of the conscience of the congress, the honorable karen bass is with us. she has traversed some distance. would you please show her and the members some love? this is my congressional district. i want all of the congress people here to stand, please. show them some love. my colleague, jackson lee, is here. thank you. to mayor turner, my dear friend and fraternity brother. to judge hidalgo, the commissioners. to all of the members of the council. i want to say another word about a great american here today, one whose name means helper of humankind. one who was there with dr. king. one who was a father of the civil rights movement right here in houston, texas.

conscience of the congress, the honorable karen bass is with us and she has traversed some distance. would you please stand? i would like all the congresspeople who are here to stand. show them some love. my colleague, jackson lee is here. thank you. to mayor turner, my dear friend and fraternity brother. to judge hildago, the commissioners, and all members of the council, and i want to say a special word about another great american with us, one whose name means help her of -- helper of humankind. one who was there with dr. king, one who is the father of the civil rights movement in houston, texas, one that we know and love.

representative karen bass, chair of the congressional black caucus is a sponsor of that bill and joins us from houston where she's attending today's funeral service for george floyd. congresswoman, good morning. it's great to have you with us. we have a lot to get to. i'll jump right in. we are two weeks and a day from the death of george floyd, but you've been at this reform effort for more than four decades. what's different about this moment and what's most important about the legislation you've introduced? >> well, what's different about the moment are the thousands of people that are protesting in every state in the united states and around the world. so i think that the tragic death, the fact that the world witnessed a man be murdered on video camera has sparked a national movement and it's a rainbow movement, and i'm hoping that that's going to give us the momentum to get the legislation across the finish line. and in terms of the most important aspects of the legislation it bans choke holds, no knock warrants.

it is understandable that people would think, what about karen bass? if they were to call you, would you be interested? chairwoman bass: of course i would take the call and i would be extremely honored. ask,han: i've got to congresswoman karen bass, california chair of the congressional black >> with the federal government at work in d.c. and around the country, contact members of congress, governors, and federal agencies -- order your copy online today at c-span store.org. >> live tuesday on the c-span networks, federal reserve chair jerome powell testifies on monetary policy at a senate hearing at 10:00 a.m. on c-span. at 2:30, the senate judiciary committee holds a hearing on police use of force and community relations. witnesses include the st. paul, minnesota, mayor, the national president of the fraternal order of police, and the chiefs of police of houston, durham, and buffalo grove. on c-span2, the senate returns to work on the bill to provide funding for national parks and public lands. at 10:00 a.m. on c-span3, the senate appropriations subcom

the honorable karen bass is with us. she has traversed some distance. would you please show her and the members of the cbc. this is my congressional district. i want all of the congresspeople who are here to stand, please. show them some love. my colleague jackson lee is here. thank you. to mayor turner, my dear friend and fraternity brother. to judge hidalgo, the commissioners. to all of the members of the council. and i want to say a special word about another great american who is here with us today. one whose name means helper of human kind. one who was there with dr. king. one who is the father of the civil rights movement right here in houston, texas. one that we know and love. the honorable william alexander

with that said, i want to thank our chairman and the head of the congressional black caucus, karen bass, chairman nadler, and the combined democratic caucus and members of the judiciary committee and leadership have said there's no more important

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we're very proud of the work that was done by chairwoman karen bass the chair of the judiciary committee but chair of the subcrime committee of the judiciary committee. this morning the supreme court and daca last night the judiciary committee and justice and policing act. tomorrow is juneteenth, a day that we observe as the day of freedom in our country with the day that people in the west found out about the emancipation proclamation. in observance of that i've sent a letter that you will see to the clerk of the house directing the clerk to remove the portraits of four previous speakers of the house who served in the confederacy. we didn't know about this until we were taking inventory of the statutes and the curator told us there were four paintings of speakers in the capitol of the united states, four speakers who served in the confederacy. tomorrow juneteenth, the clerk will oversee the removal of those confederate speakers from the house. as i've said before there's no room in the hallowed halls of this temple of democracy to memmalize people who embody violent bigotry and gross te

thank you very much karen that for your tremendous leadership under the leadership of karen bass many of us had the privilege last year of going to guyana to observe the 400th anniversary of her slaves going across the atlantic america really was there was no united states that going across the atlantic it was a horrible kidnapping the purchase of those slaves that can be done gins in which they were kept and if they thought that to be on a slave ship and if they survived that to be sold into slavery and then everything that came from but that one we were in selma only jefferson and march we saw. a brian stevenson's one of his museums a beautiful display heartbreaking. display but children little children saying mama mama has anyone seeing. these children separated from their mothers the cruelty of that and that's why when george floyd called out for his mother when he was subjected to that knee in the neck it was just a continuation of some horror that has existed in our country for a very long time so sue mr cliburn mr mr hoyer distinguished leader mr cliburn i whip joint karen bass

of course, with chairwoman karen bass and val demings. lot of black girl magic going on right now. i'm just honored to be a part of it and so thankful for their leadership and you convening us all to have this town hall meeting. from my standpoint, there is a national problem of police violence, police brutality, and the police use of excessive force. that's why it requires a national solution. not a piecemeal approach which is what senator scott seems to want to do. by trying to incentivize this department in one area or that department in another area but not necessarily mandate things across the board such as a national use-of-force standard that emphasizes de-escalation tactics in the first instance and the use of deadly force only as a matter of last resort. national database on misconduct or national ban on choke holds, other types of strangulation tactics, such as a knee to the neck that resulted in the murder of george floyd. we believe that the circumstances clearly require a comprehensive transformational national response. and that is what the george floyd justice in pol

. >> congressional black caucus chair karen bass discusses legislation to address police violence and racial profiling in the wake of george floyd's death. live coverage begins monday at .:30 eastern on c-span >> mike pompeo announced to the u.s. will authorize economic sanctions against members of the international criminal court for what he calls a record of botched prosecutions and poor judgment. mark esper andry attorney general william barr joined him when he made the announcement. ay, this is just under 20 minutes. good morning, everyone. thank you for joining me today, two days in a row. and thanks to secretary esper, attorney general barr and ambassador or national security o'brien for being with me on this important occasion as many of you know. i have an important affection for our service men and women. i'm a veteran myself, and here's a scenario that i think about a lot. imagine american soldiers, airmen, marine, or intelligence officers on leave because of -- with his or her family, maybe on a beach in europe. and over the course of two decades or more this soldier defend

and chair karen bass led a press conference to unveil the bill. with includes banning chokehold's and then starting a thorough registry of police misconduct.

leading the effort congresswoman karen bass.first discuss the atlanta police shooting that i just discussed with secretary carson. the gentleman was clearly resisting arrest, than he ran away with one of the officer's stunt guns, what was your reaction? congresswoman: i thought it was so sad, the man had fallen asleep in the takeout line. did it need to escalate to that? i was just very sad by it. chris: well, you say it didn't need to escalate to that but it did. i guess the question really becomes and let's talk about some of your reforms, some of the measures that you called for in your legislation, a ban on chokeholds, lifting qualified immunity for people to sue police, in an abstract, piece of perfect they sound perfectly legitimate but as you saw in the situation in atlanta where i agree, it couldn't have been more nonviolent, a man falling asleep in the drive-thru lane at a wendy's but it did escalate, do you worry about tieing the hands of police where things spin out of control? congresswoman: no, i don't. let me expla

. >> harris: congresswoman karen bass, spearheading the democrat efforts, told our own chris wallace she is optimistic a deal can be released to migration and she is receiving positive feedback. >> one of the same vacant parts as national standing, training, and accreditation. we are finding a lot of support from police officers. yesterday adam hour-long meeting with the fraternal order of police. they are supportive of the idea of national standards and significant training. you should be accredited to be a police officer. any profession that allows you to use lethal force, they should be very significant training. >> harris: you know, chris, i want to bring back the question that melissa francis just asked about black leadership right n now. this is a priority. perhaps always has been, but the focus is different. from your interviews this weekend, what do you think has been the tipping point? because there currently is one. >> chris: in terms of karen bass, that was the first time i ever talk to her, she's a very impressive woman. she was the first black woman to be the speaker of

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the chairwoman of the congressional black caucus, karen bass of california, joins us now.ngresswoman, thanks so much for joining us. we saw incredible images yesterday, thousands of people peacefully protesting across the nation. you're a los angeles native. you witnessed the rodney king riots firsthand. how does this moment compare to what you experienced and saw 28 years ago? >> well, first of all, this moment is incredibly inspiring to see people all across the country saying enough is enough, and also to see the multiracial character in many cities you look at the protesters and there are very few african-americans, so the solidarity with what is happening in our community and have been happening for a very long time is very inspiring and i am hopeful that it helps us get the legislation passed that we need to do. >> we have seen other disturbing videos from the last few days, including one showing police violence in buffalo when two officers shoved a 75-year-old man to the ground, which resulted in a serious injury for him. in tacoma, a man died after being forcibly r

chairwoman of the congressional black caucus karen bass joins me next. >>> hello. i'm jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is reckoning. tens of thousands of americans taking to the streets saturday protesting peacefully for racial justice, filling cities and towns across the country and, frankly, citizens filling the streets around the world. in washington, d.c., thousands of protesters gathered around the white house where the mayor of washington, d.c., had the street painted with the words black lives matter. this weekend, the images were mostly people showing people gathering, holding signs, kneeling, not the chaos and violence. president trump is in town this weekend in a newly fortified white house. the president kept his response focussed on his own message, declaring, quote, law and order and claiming that d.c.'s peaceful protest over the brutal murder of george floyd by police officers was, quote, much smaller than anticipated. this after the president's tweets drew condemnation from military leaders, including his former secretary of def

i want to begin by thanking my dear friend karen bass, the chair of the black caucus and chair of the crime subcommittee, who along with senators booker and harris, and our distinguished leadership, for their tremendous partnership in producing this important legislation. it has been inspiring to work alongside all of them throughout this whole process. we have heard the terrifying words, "i can't breathe," from george floyd, from eric garner, from the millions of americans in the streets calling out for revenge, for change. our hearts ache for the loss of george floyd, breonna taylor, all the victims of police violence over the years. for every incident of excessive force that makes headlines, the ugly truth is there are countless others that we never hear about. we value and respect the many brave and honorable police officers who put their lives on the line every day to protect us in our communities, but we cannot be blind to the structure of racism and injustice that prevpr pervades far too many of the departments. this is a problem that requires a comprehensive solution. it has b

and policing act police reform package, house speaker nancy pelosi and congressional black chair karen bass k spoke about the legislation. >>> good morning everyone. good morning. today is a glorious day because this is the day we pass legislation to transform policing in america. this year, i have the honor -- [ applause ] this year, i have the honor and the privilege to chair the congressional black caucus. next year will be the # 50th anniversary of the cdc. and 49 years ago, the 13 members of the cdc were leading the fight in congress to address the long-standing history of police abuse in the african-american community. in 1972, representative metcalf led the way in developing an agenda to reform policing in black communities. it is in their memory and it is on their shoulders that all of us stand today, not just the black caucus but the entire democratic caucus as we join together -- [ applause ] -- as we join together to finally bring about the change the founding members of the cbc valiantly fought for. although black americans have had to deal with police abuse, murder by police of

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thank you very much, karen bass, for your tremendous leadership.er the leadership of karen bass, many of us had the privilege last year of going to ghana to observe the 400th anniversary of the first slaves going across atlantic. america really was -- there was no united states, but going across atlantic. it was hoorbl, the kidnapping, the purchase of the slaves, the dunkins in which they were kept and they survived that to be on a slave ship and if they survived that to be sold into slavery. and everything that came from that. when we were in selma, a few -- in march, we saw at brian stevenson's, one of his museums, a beautiful display, heart breaking display, but children, little children saying, mama, mama, has anyone seen our mother? these children separated from their mothers. the cruelty of that. and that's why when george floyd called out for his mother, when he was subjected to that knee in the neck, it was just a continuation of some horror that has existed in our country for a very long time. to mr. clyburclyburn, mr. hoyer whip, join kar

and joining us now is representative karen bass, chair of the congressional black caucus, who is helpingarhead that package of reforms. congresswoman bass, i cannot have you on without allowing you to comment on donald trump invoking the name of george floyd to pretend the economy at 13% unemployment is great. your thoughts? >> well, you know, i mean the thoughts are awful. i mean george floyd's family laid him to rest yesterday. the grief in minneapolis, and that's what he has to say about it? we know that he is absolutely incapable of feeling empathy, and to see such an embarrassing, ignorant display of it was just shameful. but he also -- i mean he's not moved by the fact that we've lost 100,000 americans, so what's the surprise. >> fair point. firm but fair. firm but fair. this is the political report on the bill that you, madam congresswoman, are working on. it says a bill from democratic house chairman hakeem jeffries that would ban the use of choke holds by police even as most large police departments have restricted the practice. the proposal was one of the few areas of disagreem

karen bass any leadership coming out of a law that makes it against the law to put your foot on the neckn because we didn't reconciled. it's time for a department of reconciliation in the highest land, the highest office. it's time to have someone who is going to make it his or her business to seek reconciliation for black people in the united states of america every day of his life. that's what it is all about. it's time for us to reconcile. we need a department of reconciliation. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. >> just before congresswoman sheila jackson lee comes, let me tell you, we have a gate time at the cemetery for 3:00. i want us to be conscious of the fact that we've got a long, drawn-out program here, and i want to give the guest speaker an opportunity to have what he has to say. i want to give the family, certainly, an opportunity to see what they have to say, and the preachers that are on program to say what they have to say. so i'm asking all of you, if you would just be brief, brothers and sisters, be brief. amen, amen, amen. [applause] we've got to

the honorable karen bass under her leadership, we have now a law that makes it against the law to putcountry has not reconciled it differences with us. we survived slavery but we didn't reconcile. we survived segregation but we didn't reconcile. it's teem for a department of reconciliation in the highest land, the highest office. it is time to have someone who's going to make it his or her business to seek reconciliation for black people in the united states of america every day of his life. that's what it is, it's all about. it is time for us to reconcile. we need a department of reconciliation. god bless you. god bless the united states of america. >> just before congresswoman sheila jackson lee comes, let me tell you, we have a gate time at the cemetery for 3:00 and i want us to become conscious of the fact we have a long drawn out program here and i want to give the guest speaker an opportunity to have what he has to say and the family certainly an opportunity to say what they have to say. and the preachers that are on program to say what they have to say and asking all of you if

karen bass. as you probably know, in the congress of the united states, the black caucus is considered the conscience of the congress. and their years of history, of experience. when i say experience, i mean personal as well as legislative experience. as to how we go forward. so on monday, we'll be making our announcement as to how we go forward in this particular aspect of it. but it is about other injustices, too. it's about health disparities. it's about environmental injustice. it's about economic injustice. it's about educational injustice. so we want to see this as a time where we can go forward in a very drastic way, not incrementally, but in an important way to re-dress those problems. >> [inaudible] rep. pelosi: let me leave the presentation up to the caucus. we certainly do see that this is more than one or two people acting. there's a record. and that's what i think is so important about how many people are turning out, because as important as george floyd's life is, and our hearts are

please welcome congresswoman karen bass.>> thank you for having me on. >> stephen: now, i understand as the chairman of the congressional black caucus, you just ended a virtual town hall called, "living while black in america." who were some of the voices you were hearing from today? >> well, lots of people who were involved in different community activities, period, but especially right now because of what we're facing. and people were just in general expressing their anguish and their fatigue-- how long, how long, how long? how many people have to be killed on a video? >> stephen: what... what is-- what needs to happen now legislatively? what do you as a congresswoman, the congressional black caucus, the democrats and those allies you can find in the republican caucus, who can see the inflection point we're at right now now? i know speaker pelosi has asked you to lead the action that's going to be taken to-- investigate what can be done right now. what are your plans in the short term? >> sure. well, on monday we will be h

congresswoman karen bass, so great to see you. thank you very much for being here. >> thanks for having me on. >> so let's talk about atlanta and the shooting this weekend of rayshard brooks. shot twice in the back according to the medical examiner. how does this shooting fit in with george floyd in minneapolis and breonna taylor in louisville? >> well, it was just such a tragedy and you know, just leaves everybody distraught, but i will tell you, i mean, the big difference is, is that he clearly engaged in a fight and then he ran, and he turned around, at least it looks as though he turned around with his taser, but the question here is, why were the police involved at all? i mean, what he had done was he had fallen asleep in a takeout line. why did they call the police on him? and when they called the police on him, why did it escalate to the point of them engaging in a fight. and so, you saw the community reaction. it pains me every time i see the violence, but i do think it raises questions about policing which is one of the t

congressional black caucus chair karen bass discusses legislation to address police violence and profiling in the wake of george floyd's death. live coverage begins monday at 2:30 p.m. eastern on c-span. alex vitale, a sociology professor and the author of the book "the end of policing." thank you for joining us. guest: good morning, pedro. narrator:

. >> thank you very much, karen bass, for your tremendous leadership. under the leadership of karen bass many of us had had the privilege last year of going to ghana to observe the 400th anniversary of the first slaves going across the atlantic. america really -- there was no united states, but going across the atlantic. it was a horrible, the kidnapping, the purchase of those slaves, the dungeons in which they were kept and if they survived that to be on a slave ship and if they survived that to be sold into centlivre and then everything that came from that. when we were in selma only just -- in march, we saw brian stevenson at one of his museums a beautiful display, heartbreaking display, but children, little children saying momma, momma, has anyone seen our mother. these children separated from their mothers, the cruelty of that, and that's why when george floyd called out for his mother when he was subjected to that knee in the neck it was just a continuation of some horror that has existed in our country for a very long time. so to mr. cliburn and