i'd like to nominate karen breslin as the president and [speaker not understood] as the vice president. >> second. >> all right. any discussion? any public comment on this item? >> the only discussion i have is since we don't have a full quorum today, other commissioners, sometimes they defer, but i don't know the process with this commission. otherwise i move the second if there's no -- >> what do you mean we don't have a quorum? >> we have a quorum. we don't have a full board. sorry. fair enough. >> all right. any public comment on this item? all those in -- all those in favor? >> aye. >> opposed? okay, item number 10. >> item 10, action item, appointment of chair and members of the following committees. president breslin. >> all right. the rates and benefits committee is a committee of the whole. i'm appointing commissioner scott to be chair of that committee. and the finance and budget committee, i'm appointing supervisor farrell as chair. and commissioner limb and commissioner scott to be on that committee. and for the membership rules, commissioner [speaker not understood] as cha