. >>> karen broussard and her husband ron are survivors. severed an artery, she was left with fragments in her ankle. last hour i spoke with one of the men who saved ron, about whether tsarnaev's life should be spared. >> i think life is a precious thing. letting him continue to have life even in a prison cell can be a wonderful thing and does he deserve that is something i trouble myself with a lot. >> karen broussard joins me now on the phone. karen, thank you for taking the time to talk with me. >> of course. >> robert seemed so conflicted about whether he thought tsarnaev should be put to death. are you conflicted too? >> i was for quite a long time. it was an interesting process for me because prior to having had this incident happen i thought i knew what i felt. i thought if there's no question that somebody took their life, that they didn't deserve to live. but when you're actually asked and your opinion is listened to it's a lot more difficult to say, yes, go ahead and take that person's life. however, i have come to determine that

>> my name is karen broussard. i'm grateful to have him off the street. grateful to show everyone the world that it's not tolerated. this is not how we behave. and we're grateful everybody's worked so hard to make it known that we're not going to allow this. >> is there such a thing as closure here? >> no. and i say that personally just because it's not something that you'll ever be over. you know, you'll -- you'll feel it forever. there will also be something that brings it back to the forefront. but we're all going to move on with our lives and we're all going to get back to some sense of normalcy hopefully when this is all done. so closure, i guess i don't think so only because it's forever a part of our life. >> what has it been like for you coming in and seeing -- [ inaudible question ] >> i'm usually pretty passive personality. so when it first -- when i came for the arraignment i was really surprised how appearingry ry angry i was to see him and how i was happy to see that he had some pain. but, you know i'm just grateful to have the team that did

for karen broussard, injured in the bombing said the next chapter will be filled with anxiety. >> we are aware this is a process that's not going to be over soon, it's probably going to take years to get through this but it will be good to have it that much further behind us, one more piece to the puzzle done. >> legal experts say this trial is only just starting. the defense attorney has kept other high profile defends like like unibomber ted kaczynski and olympic bomber, but this could be her toughest job yet in her 20 year career. >> a high ranking supervisor at the secret service is on leave with his security clearance suspended after a female employee accused him of making unwanted sexual advances. the alleged assault happened after a party at agency headquarters. the woman alleges the manager tried to kiss her and grabbed her arms when she resisted. an investigation is underway. the director joe receiver clancy said this in a statement: >> paying off the debt, greece delivers nearly half billion dollars to its creditors but is there enough cash for the rest of its payments. liv

after it was announced, reaction from family members of survivors and those lost including karen broussardusband, daughter and close friend were injured. let's hear what she had to say. >> throughout this whole thing he's been to use my word arrogant walking in and out of the courtroom and completely disinterested. so if i saw anything from him today i would have been a little more frustrated. i think he was all in with the brother. i don't think that he was driven to that by any means. >> reporter: broussard, of course, talking about dzhokhar tsarnaev. his brother tamerlan, according to the defense team here is the one who was the mastermind behind the bombing plot and who drew dzhokhar tsarnaev in to that plot. that has been their contention throughout the trial, will continue to be in the penalty phase when the same jury will decide whether he spends the rest of his life in jail or is put to death. again, that penalty phase expected to start next week here. that is the latest live here in boston, jay gray. wendy, back to you. >> thank you, jay. >>> a college team holding back tears toda

. >> reporter: but karen broussard, permanently injured by shrapnel says tsarnaev does not deserve to live even in prison. >> he was grown enough, intelligent enough to make the decision knowing what was going to happen to people. >> reporter: defense lawyers will argue that he was 19 at the time of the bombings, a troubled adolescent dominated by an older brother who radicalized him. when police arrested him, they found he had written a message in the boat in watertown where he hid saying his older brother achieved paradise. "boston globe" columnist questions whether jurors should give him that same outcome. >> it would be supremely ironic if a jury here in boston would do what he was not willing or not able to do that night in watertown and that is to make himself a martyr. >> reporter: unlike in a regular trial, there could be no hung jury outcome. if the verdict is not unanimous, the sentence is automatically life in prison. >> when you talk about life in prison, a lot of people not clear. explain exactly what he would face if that is what he's sentenced to. >> reporter: well, we