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. >> let's bring in karen desoto, criminal defense attorney in legal analyst.hat do you make of these statements, you can bring anybody and everybody in. it's okay if they're not telling the truth. >> witnesses and who you put on the stand, remember, bob mccull lock is a person who campaigns, not appointed. he has to curry favor towards the public. that may have a lot to do with it. but obviously, he made some comments that are a little bit jarring for people which is that people went and they testified and they lied and he may have known that. >> can i get specific on one here? >> sure. >> made reference to a woman who claims to have seen the shooting. mcckol lock clearly isn't presenting charges against those who lied. isn't that perjury? >> yes, that is perjury. witnesses lying, how odd. the decision to put that person on, apparently, he made a policy decision, alex, and that policy decision was we're just going to put everybody into the grand jury. let me make a distinction rather than just a prosecutor presenting condensed evidence for whatever purpose. th

joining me now jason johnson, professor of political science, republican strategist joe watkins and karen desotoes first with you, karen. why are americans losing confidence in the legal system? >> well, i think during the economic meltdown, i think a lot of americans lost confidence in all government across the board. however, when you look at urban areas, when you look at where the largest concentration of police officers are, they're in urban areas, okay. and urban areas are predominantly minority areas. so a lot of the concentration, the exposure to police officers is going to be in urban areas where you have the most proliferation of them out in the suburbs. not going to have contact with police officers. and when you do have contact with police officers, alex, it's usually not for something that makes you happy. it's not because you're getting your christmas turkey. so a lot of the contact with them is through minorities and urban areas and you're not going to have a good taste in your mouth, especially no uh with the passionate response and the distrust. >> yeah. jason, this poll also ask