for more perspective, i want to bring in mark clackston, jim cavanau cavanaugh, and karen desoto.ee something that could resemble an ankle holster on that right leg. >> we do have the ankle holster, a picture of that too. and this is what -- part of the evidence that was released to us by charlotte police. we've got that picture of it. and putting those two together, jim cavanaugh, do you see anything here that mark hasn't or do you agree with what he's saying? >> no, i agree with mark. certainly, we've both worn ankle holsters over the years. mark has taken guns in and out of them many times. what happens when you pull a gun out of the ankle holster, the pants hang up on the argnkle holster. with the pd releasing the ankle holster picture, it clearly to me looks like the ankle holster. you can't see anything in his hands. i think that's a point well taken by mark and the family's made that point, but i do think that's an ankle holster. it shows up again in the dash cam video. it's clear the ankle holster is there, and it's sort of acting as if you would have drawn a weapon. i'm s