. >> karen elliott house, was the saudi arabian role in their neighborhood? >> well, they like to think it's a big one, but the saudis into, i like to say they have one policy at its insurance policy, and they take it out with everyone. they prefer to try to use money to solve problems. they are, aside from iran, kind of the only other major power on the gulf, and the u.s. obviously has had a longtime relationship with them, and saudi arabia is now the fourth largest, fourth biggest defense spender in the world after the u.s., china and russia. it doesn't mean they are the fourth largest military power, but they are the fourth biggest spender. so they seek to have influence, but it's more a quiet influence, in my view. they do not -- they did send troops into bahrain this year to try -- or two years ago, to try to keep a sunni minority government in power over a shia majority. but they seek to have more influence than i think they have, in a word. >> the ruling family sending? >> they are sunni, yes. >> why is that significant? >> well, the sunnis are the lar