we tom bevin and andrew feldman, small business council president karen kerrigan. saying almost to a man or woman this momentum can't be sustained. it is not good or bad. heading towards recession. they're cautious. are small business folks feeling same way? >> i think there is. continous improvement in terms of policy and moving forward. reforms that could be made on a whole host of issues. capital, health care reform. obviously workforce challenges are a big issue facing all businesses. big, medium and small. so solutions along those. >> a couple days we had really great things to report. there need to be more policies to fuel that enabling environment and i think we could get back to strong levels of growth. that overhang definitely on the trade. that has to be resolved more quickly than mid-summer. neil: that is what i hear from folks. tom bevin one thing you hear depending on the left and right, few will argue the economy is doing pretty well. you can talk about those dislocated. those not getting swept up in good activity, are smaller percentages we've seen i