i am karen fishkin. my background is geriatic social work. now it's just geriatics. i have been on the board for about 15 years. first it was sand and now it's sda and it's really an important part of my life. the main focus for most of my time on the board and with the organization was on seniors, and now there's an equal focus on those with disabilities and jessica is leading us into that work. i participate with the housing collaborative. that group has taken action on issues such as the [inaudible] evictions, a tax on rent control and lead the work of a collaboration that created a survey for sro residents on the needs of the seniors and those with disabilities in those buildings since for many sro's will be the homes where they age and place. that survey resulted in legislation introduced by supervisor eric mar to require both grab bars and working phone jacks for residents. it just passed unanimously in its first reading at the board of supervisors. we are very proud of that. sda also runs several sessions a year, sda university. participants are taught how to

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ashley lyon, michelle, denise, terry, linda, darren bridges, joanne, mark brian, lorenzo, cizi, karen fishkinbryce, david feather stone, andy, lisa garcÍa. go ahead. >> thank you. good afternoon. my name is steve wu. i'm representing tenderloin neighborhood development corporation. and we are also a member of the council for community housing organizations. we've taken a position opposed to the legislation primarily because we see t.i.c.s as cannibalizing the existing rental housing stock. our rental housing stock is critical to preserve in maintaining the affordability in san francisco's housing. we believe that, furthermore, that the uncapping the conversion condo conversion cap will further incentivize more t.i.c.s forming from our existing rental housing stock, thus leading to -- exacerbating the affordability problem in san francisco. furthermore, the the fee, we have questions about the fee, for bypassing the conversion lottery. it's set as high as 20,000 but as low as 4,000. this is substantially lower than the in lieu fee that the mayor's office of housing has set forth of constructio