we have with us karen freeman-wilson, the mayor of gary, indiana, and attended that conference.k you for joining us this morning. i wonder if there is one overarching decision or consensus how to approach this problem that came out of this conference. >> i think the consensus that you'll find is that there are a number of underlying issues. you sort of talked a little bit about them. the concept of racism as it plays out in our urban communities. the issue of unemployment, of challenge school systems. all of those underlying issues lead to frustration among many residents, particularly among african-american males. and you see some of the manif t manifestations through violence and not just the demonstrations, but protesters that really underscore at a loud volume what the sense of disenfranchisement and sense of hopelessness that many feel. >> there is a piece in "the new york times" this morning by nick kristoff says since the edge of forehea freddie gray, we treat them like a natural disaster imposed on us but, instead it is a consistent choice, it is a reflection of socioeco

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joining us now is karen freeman wilson she's the mayor of gary indiana and also the chair of u.s.recently released a report introducing better police practicing nationwide. great to have you here. >> great to be here. >> interesting conversations i'm sure that were had. tell us what you learned that could apply to what's going on right now in battle ploer? >> well, in chairing the conference of mayor's task force on police community policing or police community relations, we really looked at a number of things. we looked at communications when there is a crises but we also pulled back to look at recruitment, to look at discipline to look at those things involving officers during the normal course of time like training. >> it is a first step these meetings. >> yes. >> but how do we ensure -- you and i have all been to meetings in our own offices where we have all sorts of high-minded ideas, but when it gets down to getting the job done there's a disconnect. >> but we made recommendations that will lead to training. and not just training of police officers but also that would lead t