remember karen gohine? she joined us on the show last week. self-quarantined.e and she knew high fever and body aches meant she likely had it. she was tested and she had coronavirus. why is that good news? you remember her? remember how she looked? she says she is getting better. her spirits are okay. she had to stay home but just symptomatic care and she's doing fine, and she is getting better. she isolated herself to not spread. there's a look on her beautiful face. and that's right when she was starting to deal with the return, in the afternoon, of more fever. days after visiting her mother at the kirkland nursing home, what is now the epicenter of the outbreak in washington, her mother is waiting on lab results. look. helen's going to beat it. she's worried about her mother and rightly so. you are going to see overwhelmingly when you see more cases that helens are much more like -- sorry, karens -- karens are much more likely than anything worse. that's why we pushed the administration to test and to tell the truth about the number of cases. keeping the num