have cnn political commentator karen finney, watergate prosecutor nick akerman, founder of mo news motion, when your new host of conversations with coleman podcast comment hughes and also joining us attorney john sale who turned down an offer to join the trump legal team on the mar-a-lago documents case, guys great to have all of you here tonight with us to figure out what happened today and what we saw nick let me start with you. now that you have seen the indictment is that a strong or weak case looks to me like a very strong case in the fact that it goes through. you've got two witnesses. you've got michael cohen and you've got david pecker at a minimum. you've got lots of documents. you've got them corroborated by those documents. you've got a tape that is referenced in there. you've got activity at the end, where they basically take it right out of the mueller report to show that there was a major effort to try and keep michael cohen in the camp and to keep tabs on him to make sure that he wouldn't cooperate. the entire case is really almost like a book end to the other two investigations, one going on in atlanta and the other bye. jack smith with respect