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also with us karen ishizuka, a , third-generation american of japanese descent. cucurator of the nationwide exhibit called, "america's concentration camps: remembering the japanese-american experience." her latest book is titled, "serve the people: making asian america in the long sixties." she also wrote, "lost and found: reclaiming the japanese american incarceration." we welcome you both to democracy now! , you say it is wrong to refer to what happened to the japanese as internment. why? as both georgek and others have called it interment because that is the common phrase -- amy: george? >> george takai. amy: from star trek, japanese-american. >> yes. when i was asked to curate the show that we did of calling america's concentration camps, you know, i had 19 advisers, including roger daniels the histstorian was probably one of the first major historians to write about the camps, as well as the lead researcher on the commission for the relocation interment civilians for the government. all of those 19 advisers advised us to not continue to use euphemisms that h