. >> brown: karen kaslar what are you seeing in ohio? how much is the state exposed? what particular areas? >> well, ohio is interesting in that we're not going to be as heavily impacted as some states like virginia and maryland. because of federal spending as a percentage of state gdp is pretty low, only about 3%, actually less than 3%. and so we're talking about 26,000 civilians who work for military contractors. most of them based at our largest military installlation which is write patterson air force base near dayton and then we have other state agencies that might see some impact, for example, the department of education is reporting about 25 million dollars. the white house is actually saying this. about 25 million dollars could be cut to education. about 22 million dollars could be cut to education for children with disabilities. and those could be hundreds of teachers jobs. and also some head start positions, about 2500, according to the white house. though our costs here are lower for head start so head start in ohio is saying about 3,000 kids. so those are