please welcome, karen lotz. [applause] >> thank you so much murray and thank you everyone and their good friends on call. at such an honor to be here to be included in the summit and thank you all for your attention. one of our speakers earlier today, former congressman tom allen who is now at the aap talks about how the world of publishing is divided into many different industries really now and i would say that the corner that i hail in children's publishing is rapidly becoming even more different from our big books, partners on the adult side. we actually call it a dull publishing and we take it into this neal james family means one thing into us it means adult books versus children's books. children's books, it's interesting when he think about the context of yesterday as well because we been looking at the past and talking a lot about classics and very ancient and beautiful books such as the ones we saw last night. the entire field of children's books is actually fairly young in the scheme. the whole idea o