the case. >> she will not have a law license when i get done with her, and like i said earlier, karen mcdonald get a job anywhere else. >> these help their case definitely when it came to sentencing and allowed the judge to get a picture of who james crumbley was and his frustration of this case. >> reporter: now, police say there were at least ten jailhouse calls in which crumbley made potential threats towards the prosecutor. both james and his wife jennifer were sentenced to a 10 to 15-year prison sentence for their roles in the 2021 oxford high school mass shooting, guys. >> janai: we will see what a precedence those sentences set. >> whit: absolutely and, ike, on a totally different subject here, we do want to welcome you to new york. ike has been a correspondent in d.c. but officially you're coming home. >> yeah. >> whit: welcome. >> thank you. born in jersey, worked around this area. >> janai: really? >> absolutely. feels great to be back in the tri-state area. >> whit: we'll see you back in the studio plenty more, and one of these days we'll still get him to play his saxophone. we've b

they are looking at this case when i interviewed karen mcdonald shortly after the conviction, i said, do you believe that this is president setting for other processes? computers in this country to follow suit of what you did. her response was they need to ask the question, where did the gun come from regarding the minor child? where did it come from? >> that >> can launch the investigation right now. and i think that in regard to gun violence, prosecutors are looking at this because someone needs to be responsible. and if you have a minor child and you have a gun in your home knowing there's a minor child and it is not locked. it is sitting around it is loaded and something happens there have been cases where there is child neglect charges for a parent, but not homicide. this is what makes this case stand out from any other case that is bruyne brought before in this country? >> okay. i think we're not is with us now. we're not just pick up where gene left off about the historic precedent that was just set in michigan. and also, i mean, jeanne was talking rightly about the use of the

we just have to educate the public and provide that for them. >> karen mcdonald. i appreciate your time tonight. thank you >> thank you. >> just ahead. opposition to the former president's claims of immunity in his election interference case. this time from former top military commanders and officials, one of the 19th who signed an amicus brief to the supreme court join us next it's kubota orange days shot the year's biggest election of komodo equipment. hey, get 0% apr for 84 months, or up to 30 $300 off select compact tractors, find your nearest dealer at kubota orange days.com >> i met with the turbotax expert because i had two full-time jobs, lawyering and miami >> count on me, mia, i'll file your taxes for you with 100% accuracy guaranteed. lead to turbotax full service expert, do your taxes as soon as today ? >> one in five children worldwide are faced with the reality of living without food no family dinners. >> a special treats, >> not enough energy to play all around the world. hunger is affecting children's physical and mental health toddlers are sufferi

karen mcdonald. i'm as mcdonald, i appreciate your time. you heard in genes report a sister of one of the victims on essentially anna says that the ten to 15 years sentence for the crumbleys feels too short because hana, or sister didn't even live to be 15 are you satisfied with the sentences you got >> you know satisfaction isn't really a feeling that i think anyone has just watching your story. it's i haven't actually watched it since we were in court today and it is so jarring and moving and i think nothing will bring back these kids. but the shear enormous impact that their gross negligence had these families is just it was palpable. and if i could anderson, i would like to just address just the previous statements. it is not to be true that the shooter said a psychiatrist said he lied that that was taken completely out of context and we heard that even today, which was a surprise that we'd be arguing facts after we've had to jury trials. >> but the >> shooter being called as a witness and a psychiatrists actually would be damaging test

enquirer and keith davidson, lawyerfor karen national enquirer and keith davidson, lawyer for karen mcdonald national enquirer. how does it link to donald trump? that's _ national enquirer. how does it link to donald trump? that's the - national enquirer. how does it link| to donald trump? that's the thing. there's an old expression in american law by a very famous evidence professor and it is a brick is not a wall. so the entire story, the entire narrative is a wall. but each piece of evidence consists of a brick so that you build up bricks and you make a wall. this is just a piece of the puzzle. a piece of the puzzle that makes this entire story for the ultimately they are going to call michael cohen. michael cohen is going to tie all of this together. 0kay. caroline, without a banker today, a public television archivist showing his previous statements from donald trump, without a man who recalls depositions. are the public paying attention to this? doesn't matter in the jury a public opinion out there and is it making a difference to the campaign? christian, i think the general public— ch

>> george: we're joined by karen mcdonald the oakland county prosecutor. thanks for joining us. parents have been held criminally responsible. do you think this will set a precedent or do we have just exceptionally egregious facts here? >> we have exceptionally egregious facts. to the extent it sends a message or precedent, i hope it is people pay more attention to securing their firearms. we should be asking how somebody particularly a minor got ahold of a gun in a shooting. but in terms of holding parents responsible for crimes of their kids, i'm just not so sure it's setting a precedent because we're sending a message because most parents don't really need this message. it is coming from a place of commonsense. >> george: you've stressed this point, the judge did as well, this is not criminalizing bad parenting. >> no, it is not. i don't want to be responsible for all of the actions of my kids. i know most americans do not. but in this case, the first question was, where did this minor get ahold of this firearm that he used to gun down and murder four kids and injure seven ot

also to karen mcdonald and the entire prosecution team. we appreciate your efforts >> your honor. my trauma and devastation is hard to put two words what i have done so in my letter to you i would also like to mention justin's brothers, nathan and clay they are now forced to live a life without their beloved middle brother, justin my son justin was the least deserving of his fate. he was the best son at any mother could pretty four justin was brave, spending his final moments protecting a fellow student he was hard working. a lettered athlete, a top honor student he was kind and inclusive to all he was full of love and joy. his future was so very bright and full of possibilities his passing has touched so many family members, friends, students, and the community in general the ripple effects of both jameson, jennifer's failures to act have devastated us all this tragedy was completely preventable if only they had done something. your honor. anything? >> to shift the course of >> events on november 30th that are four angels would be here today. and justin would be getting ready to

really ways against james is that there were threats that james made on the phone directly to karen mcdonald, the elected county prosecutor that i'm gonna get you. and when i get out and just threats to her person and that could really impact him, i think in sentencing because obviously danger to the community is something that the court will look at. but one more thing in regard to jennifer crumbley >> she >> always the jury convicted her based on she was the last one to have the gun. we here in these memos and it's from jail aims and a statement that the jail psychiatrist talked to ethan and it came out in the miller hearing and ethan said, i snuck into my parents room first off to try to find where the gun was and where the bullets were. and then i snuck in again when i actually got the gun before i was going to commit that shooting and the bullets we've always wondered how he got the gun and that psychiatrists did testify in the miller hearing and i don't remember her saying that, but she did say that he took responsibility. that was all him it's very interesting. >> well, we will stay t

we might even hear a clip in the sentencing where they allege he threatened karen mcdonald, the elected county attorney for oxford, count for oakland county, and says wait until i out. i'm coming for you. the defense's saying they're hard two sides to this story. you gotta listen to the whole tape because after that, he wants her disbarred from the michigan bar saying that she lied during this case, you should not be an attorney. he begins at recording the defense's by saying, i would have done anything to stop this if i had known it was going to happen. so that's what the defense will be arguing. whose conduct during the trials and issue here as well. well, the prosecution is saying that as he held his earphones to be able to hear that he used his middle finger and that middle finger was assigned >> to the prosecutor. this is what i'm talking about. this is how i feel about you the defense's saying he was just holding a earphones in so we could hear. he wasn't doing anything like that. g casarez, some full contact reporting today. thank you for being with us all right >> new attacks fr

other matters obviously, stormy daniels, karen mcdonald, those will be allowed to come in, but the judge is trying to strike a balance between the probative value and the prejudicial effect of these other sort of uncharged bad acts. >> karen, you know, the prosecutors, what are these first couple of rulings tell you about the judge's overall approach to the case. >> the judge is making sure that although there are probative information that the prosecution wants to bring in, what probative means. so any evidence that tends to prove somebody's guilt is quote, unquote probative, right? it's, it's relevant. it helps the jury decide that whether or not someone is guilty, but the judge has to weigh whether or not it's overly prejudicial. so for example, one of the things that the judge or that the prosecution wanted to bring in is at the time they want to take the jury back to 2016 to feel what what donald trump and his campaign was feeling at the time that they did these catch and kill stories and all that was going on in the background and the access hollywood tape is part of it. and then t

mcdonald's. i am pretty shocked, honestly. >> you talk about strange day today. yesterday, karenwere talking about karen thought lamb weston -- >> was research. >> right. and then two days in a row we are talking about this. number one. number two, mcdonald's, 17 years, i have never heard them talk about their consumer basically trading down and being affected by prices like they did in the release, i think it was on february 8 or so. real quick, if we can put a chart. short-term has to scare people. tim wants below 250. it was around the low from october of last year. >>> coming up, the chart master's very own chart of the week. the technical tale of the name he is watching more closely. t that is next. >>> plus a my energy rally. the energy sector hitting a fresh all-time high today. crude above 87 bucks a barrel. what it means for your profit pipeline and prices at the pump right after this. >>> missed a moment of fast? catch us on the go. follow the "fast money" podcast. wee ckig aerhi'rba rhtft ts. eprn feel darkest before dawn. with caplyta, there's a chance to let in the l

so as karen mcdougal oh, and by the way, start mcdonald's had an interview at some point it may have been from the practice. we don't know so it just goes to show that he's misrepresenting if he's misrepresenting about that what else is he missed? >> is that what you think the purpose of this was not too eventually prove that he did indeed have fairs with these women, but certainly he knew them. karen mcdougal, he referred to as our girl, correct we saw that in some of the communications, yeah, absolutely. this was a lot of to do about just small points, but there's small points. we're going to see that doing the closing arguments, these points where he is lying to you about these affairs, and you can't believe anything he's saying obviously, and that's why they took the time to make sure they brought in the c-span guy and anybody else they needed to be custodian of records to get into, right. >> even somebody who had taken a deposition and e jean carroll, that a lot of that. >> all right. >> thank you all very much. and next, stormy daniels sharing exclusively the violent, disturbin