i know karen millses here. can they really have flexibility? one of the things that we found is actually, if you look at the results, small businesses seem to be even more flexible. that kind of goes against some of the perceptions. >> a lot of the women are starting small businesses. they're leaving the big firms in starting small businesses. they are flexible. secretary, we should talk about the lower wage workers. there is a lot of focus on it being much easier for companies to give flexibility to professional men and women and people who can work from home in computers and have the jobs that allow for that. but there is a great need, probably even a greater need, for flexibility in the different areas, working on an assembly line, working on a shop floor. the way you grew up with your parents -- i mean, people need some flexibility. i listened to a lot of companies struggling with how to provide a little more autonomy. is there hope on that front that you have seen a question mark -- that you have seen? >> you never heard about best practic