this is a slightly different video here, but pence's wife, karen, yes, she stayed seated. she did not greet the president elect. a few moments later, here it is. here's the moment. let's watch it. so there you go. donald trump shakes hands with mike pence and melania, as well as karen pence remains seated by his side. karen pence did shake the hand of barack obama and several of the other former presidents and first ladies. it wasn't, though, all icy reception for trump. what appeared to look like a moment of bromance going viral. trump and obama seen having a lighthearted chat. at one point, he even got a laugh out of the 44th president. >> i didn't realize it how friendly it looked. i saw it on your wonderful network just a little while ago before i came in, and i said, boy, they look like two people that like each other. and we probably do. we have little different philosophies, right? but we probably do. i don't know, we just got along, but i got along with just about everybody our my panel is back. >> donald trump seems to really have enjoyed watching the video of his

he'll be coming next noteworthy noteworthy that misses karen pence is not. now she has not met and that steely look, it donald trump jimmy carter i think part a funeral. >> she's not. karen pence is in here and michelle obama right again. something to be put into context, though. we've never cared. >> if former first lady's of first vice second lady, whoever the were relevant. and i think that we care about it often for the wrong reasons, which is what does it say to the division? what does it say say to the division. what doe to distress? s sion. what doe it say i don't think we need to be concerned about it as much because we'll see what happens going forward because he now has a competing domestic crisis. tiktok matters to americans. it's 170 million people would be the largest disenfranchising a fundamental right. we've seen in a generation open. if you lose that public foreign clinton and that started on trump's watch in twenty-twenty when he signed an executive order ironically and then it was delivered to congress and now he is delaying his idea to ha

if you are karen pence, a mother and a wife. sure, sure. >> and if you look at donald trump's presence at this funeral and the way he was regarded by almost everyone there, you get a sense of how awkward this was. he was seated in the second row down on the end. last presidential funeral was back when george h.w. bush, well, he was president. then he got to sit right up front in the main seat. now he's in the second row. he's just in front of pence. he's behind kamala harris. he was bending barack obama's ear much of the time, but pretty much no one else there spent any time really talking to him. and when kamala harris came in, she sort of looked right past him and he sat there, seemingly sort of staring daggers at her for a moment. but then he was back to being in the back row there, and it was just a really interesting thing to see. another interesting thing, though, is think about also what was donald trump was enduring today. i'm sure that's how he sees it. he was being told about jimmy carter's record and many of these thi

mike pence and karen pence did not meet with kamala and doug but they opened their home to them. the rooms. that is especially important to be able to do when you have to put three children in a new home. this is a complete overhaul of their lives. they have been living in ohio, now they're moving to dc. dad is now the second most powerful person in the school. we're going to new schools that feels like's really easy layup. greg >> greg: not very mamala of her. >> jessica: they should have opened the doors and said measure the drapes or whatever. >> dana: it bamalaed. >> greg: she, if she thinks she's going to be governor of california, not next. >> if you think you can hang on with the president, the village people are performing. look at 'em, streaming directv without a satellite dish. did you see how fast that guy found the game — he hardly struggled at all! every day is a struggle for us pigeons... and he's flipping through channels faster than a falcon! ya know, i dated a falcon once. with stamps.com you can print stamps and shipping labels. (♪) whenever, wherever. (♪) get t

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karen pence opted not to celebrate the man who was all good with a bunch of yahoos killing her husbandke is actually the fun one in the couple. the award for best dressed at today's inauguration, let's go back to that, went to senator john fetterman who looked like his mom interrupted his fortnite game and forced him to come downstairs. you know, john, even adam sandler wears a suit to the golden globes. after he was sworn in trump gave his second inaugural address, which, i have to say was more ominous than anticipated. >> in order to ensure the security and continuing stability, the republic will be reorganized into the first galactic empire. >> so this is how liberty dies. by thunderous applause. >> jimmy: that's right. emperor pap teen-y hands is back. it was not an uplifting or even well-written speech. trump said "the golden age of america begins right now," twice, and bragged about a landslide victory that was in no way a landslide. >> my recent election is a mandate to completely and totally reverse a horrible betrayal, and all of these many betrayals that have taken place and

and notably, the former second lady, wife karen pence, did not stand, didn't even appear to look at donald trump enas he wa arriving. that was striking to me as well there. but it did speak volumes to see this gathering of current and former presidents and the current president there, celebrating the life rrof jimmy carter, who in many ways, as joe biden himself said today, never let the tides of politics direct him from his mission to serve and as you look at the plane that will carry jimmy carter's remains back to plains, georgia. it will stop at fort benning there, in georgia, before returning to plains, maranatha baptist church is where a private service will take place later today. that is a place where jimmy carter, chris, as we sort of spoke about the lifetime of service, it's a place where he concluded each lesson with a challenge, basically, to all of those in attendance, as he taught sunday school there, to do one good thing for one person, as the church itself says, whether making the time to call a friend who was sad or lonely, mowing the lawn for an elderly community member, o

but as for pence's wife, karen, pence sat there very quietly, did not get up when donald trump walked in. >> there was a lot of tension in that room, but it was barack obama who seemed to be the only one engaging with trump, chatting and smiling freely with the president elect. now that the political dialog has just gotten so vitriolic that donald trump can say really terrible things about these men and then sit next to them as though nothing had happened, author kate andersen brower says we shouldn't forget about the underlying lesson of this so-called presidents club, that there is still a mutual respect between these men that has not been completely done away with, and we should celebrate that despite whatever tension there may have been in that cathedral tonight. >> and the cathedral was it was very powerful, very moving indeed. i'm glad i was inside. brian todd, thank you very, very much. and let me just add and end this show by saying, may president carter rest in peace and may his memory be a blessing. i'm wolf blitzer in the situation room. thanks very much for watching.

that's kind of where i do find myself pretty aligned with karen pence today. >> they have told themselves they have told themselves the lie that if they are proximate to him, they are somehow going to be the final guardrail. >> and what we had to learn the first time was that did not prove to be true. there was no one who actually kept him honest and to his word. yeah. >> what should we do instead? >> i mean, i'm game. i'm with you. >> i mean, karen didn't show up today, and i think that we can just call it what it is. you know, again, he doesn't put his hand on the bible. whatever. maybe that's an accident. maybe that's symbolism. but like the notion that he is, you know, going to uphold the constitution and that we're going to have this ceremony today where joe biden and jill biden do the traditional thing and they have tea in the white house, and they stand together and take pictures. then they go to the capitol together. then he forgets to put his hand on the bible, and then he says he's going to uphold the constitution. it's like we know he's not going to uphold the constitution. he

i did notice that his wife, karen pence, did not stand up and greet the trumps, and i don't i would certainlypeak for her, but i think any wife who has children and herself were in danger with her husband on january 6th, that would be challenging to shake the hand of the person responsible for that. but i think it was a good moment for mike pence to show that he can be the bigger person in this situation. >> karen, what did you make of the and again, it's a funeral or at a distance, yeah. but still, i would have expected a warmer greeting between the bidens and doug emhoff and vice president harris. no. >> although it's not like they don't see each other. i mean, who knows? they may have already been in a hold together before they came out. we don't know. but, you know, i was more struck, actually, jake, both from the ceremony and the images by the arc of history, the idea that you had pence who just made those amazing comments about how he had thought about al gore in those moments four years ago and the very moving tribute from gerald ford, talking about his relationship with jimmy carter.

. >> not with mike pence, karen pence. former second lady is not there, who has been very clear about her disdain for and how upset, understandably, she was about january 6th. she was there with him when the mob was outside calling for -- >> hang mike pence. >> -- her husband to be hanged. >> and the entire country, donald trump included, owes mike pence, actually quite a lot of gratitude for what he did on that day. not only for fulfilling his constitutional responsibility but also in the midst of the chaos, when the secret service was telling him we have to go, we have to get out of here. we don't know if we can protect you in this building. he insisted on staying and certifying the election when the congress came back into session. >> i don't know if we control the feed or not, but it's really remarkable to see these tech ceos or founders in the case of jeff bezos, the founder of amazon, standing alongside members of the trump cabinet. >> they got better seats than some members of the cabinet. >> just remarkable. i can'

first lady michelle obama decided to skip her husband's work thing, while the former second lady, karen pence, rightfully skipped the inauguration of the man whose supporters wanted to hang her husband. as for donald trump, who refused to participate in the peaceful transfer of power when he was when he left office the last time and fomented a violent attack on the u.s. capitol, for which he was never held accountable. his inaugural message was about unity. >> today is martin luther king day and his honor. this will be a great honor, but in his honor, we will strive together to make his dream a reality. we will make his dream come true. national unity is now returning to america, and confidence and pride is soaring like never before. >> may king's ghost haunt you? yeah. today was one of those days when the universe delivers its ultimate irony. martin luther king jr day, a federal holiday falling on the same day as donald trump's second inauguration. trump, flanked by billionaires, promising unity while also invoking the racist and violent expansionist doctrine of manifest destiny. and for all

karen pence noticeably ignored the trumps after they entered the room. michelle obama not going. hi. she's done. >> you know, it's an insult to the office of the presidency. >> doesn't matter who's the president. this is a tradition that's been around for over 100 years. you shouldn't do this. tell that to donald trump. it doesn't matter who donald trump or who isn't. it's the president of the united states. >> he didn't show up. >> i'm saying he didn't show up at all. >> i don't, and he was actually i don't agree with that former first lady. >> you should always show for the office eight years ago. doesn't matter then you then you should say donald should have shown everybody should show up for funerals and for inaugurations, period. >> i don't really care whether she's there all that much. i mean, she's she can make her travel decisions. i do think this is part of a pattern of these little petty snubs. this is one kamala harris snubs. kamala harris won't invite jd vance's wife and kids over to the naval observatory, where she's moving children into. they've never been in it bef

karen pence did not move. she did not get up from her seat to say hi to melania trump or to donald trump. speaking of of the seating, but just the idea to see the two of them potentially in the exact same place where pence was rushed out on january 6th, would be remarkable. >> it will be remarkable. and it's also caitlin. we should note that he was invited by the joint congressional committee that oversees inaugural ceremonies. he was not invited by anyone around trump. so i just want to make that clear. he was invited as part of past presidencies. and that is that is the capacity in which if he shows up, he will do so. but yes, this is look, as you say, he was there for biden's swearing in. that was 14 days after the attack on the capitol by a pro-trump mob. but this is the first time that he will be there in this moment. while trump is having his ascension, it will be a striking moment both for pence and for trump. >> yeah, and of course, we know after trump is sworn in and takes the oath of office, he's goi

know how how you negotiate that after what happened on january 6th, after seeing that, i thought karen pence and trump had the testiest kind of non exchange at carter's funeral. it's running. >> is teleprompters really hard. >> if i could just say quickly. >> yeah. >> and you know who knows that no one better than the former vice president mike pence who will be here. we confirmed at the inauguration tomorrow. we'll see what that looks like. everyone stick around. we have a lot to get to. and after an agonizing 471 days, there are three israeli hostages who are home tonight back in the arms of their loved ones. back safe. this is part of the first phase of that ceasefire deal holding for now. and this is all coming tonight as tiktok is back up again in the united states after it went dark temporarily. just a couple of hours. but the zoomers did not like that. this is coming on the promise of an executive order from president-elect trump. speaking of those many executive orders, details on how that's still being finalized this hour. next. >> this part changed my life. >> superman is now nomin

karen pence stayed seated as the president-elect greeted his running mate.ut the speeches focussing on bipartisanship. including a eulogy written by former president gerald ford, read by his son. >> by fate of a brief season, jimmy carter and i were rivals. but for the many wonderful years that followed, friendship bonded us. >> reporter: and the former president's body was flown back to plains, georgia, his hometown and the place he lived for most of his 100 years. he was laid to rest after one final motorcade in that small georgia town that he made famous. >> it was quite the touching tribute yesterday. ryan, thank you. >>> a beautiful farewell. you were there. >> yes. his grandson when he started to tell the stories about growing up in that house and seeing the carters hanging zip lock bags. do you remember that? >> i love that. and i love when he talked about when jimmy carter finally got his own grandson and the grandson said, who is this? you called me. >> i love it. i love. >> just think. you and jimmy carter had something in common, zip lock bags. wi

. >> there were a lot of different reactions yesterday including karen pence, where there was an effort was different from others. i don't think any of them are necessarily wrong. donald trump talked about his interaction with former president barack obama. let's listen to that. take a look. >> what were you talking to barack obama about? >> it did look very friendly, i must say. i didn't realize how friendly it looked, i saw it on your wonderful network, just a little while ago before i came in and i said, boy, they look like two people that like each other and we probably do, we have little different philosophies, i don't know, we got along. but i get along with just about everybody, we met backstage before we went on and i thought it was a beautiful service but we all got along very well, which is good. >> so, this is a great conversation because i also think it is similar, not the same, similar to the conversation that was had after we had a meeting with trump and a lot of people said you said all these things about him and then you met him. yes and yes. two things can be true at th

in the news, karen pence, mike pence's wife did not show up as well.i think that c-span is continuing their biased coverage. i agree with the man from international falls. and plus the guests you have, you know, he's been nothing but fairly critical about the speech. i loved the speech. president trump is informing people, a job that c-span should have done for the last four years, of all the corruption and negative and horrible things that the biden has done. i pray and i hope that c-span will be halfway fair. host: ok, thank you. the president is about to sign some of the official documents in the president's room at the capitol. president trump: it was freezing. the sun is really deceptive. what would you like us to do? >> sign here. >> official documents. [indiscernible] -- [talking simultaneously] >> it's a tradition. >> sir, the first is 22 cabinet and cabinet level appointments, for your significant florida tour. president trump: ok. ok. >> the next one will be -- excuse me. the next one will be 47 subcabinet level appointments, sir. >> you don'

karen pence, if you're watching at home, god bless you. >> she and michelle obama said, not, not, not tonight, not today. >> yeah. >> i'm thinking of the pardons again. >> and caroline edwards is one of the capitol police officers who is still working. and there's george w bush and laura bush. i think maybe one of his most famous quotes ever might have been trump 1.0, some strange bleep, right? that was some weird, weird bleep. yeah, he said after trump's first inaugural. >> it looks like he has some thoughts right now. those are the kushner children. i believe entering alex i feel like we're perfect complements to one another. >> the people who i do not recognize are the people who, you know who they are. >> so arriving on his own, on his own, also arriving on his own. >> former president barack obama, as joe just noted, michelle obama, the former first lady elected not to attend today's proceedings. she also did not attend proceedings for former president carter's funeral a couple of weeks a few weeks ago in washington. while we're talking about the history of this room, the rotunda

pence. site karen pens do not shake president trump's hand and this was interesting some chatting between christ obama seated next to each other instantly had a lot of talk about the whole group they probably did the most chatting throughout the course of the period win everyone was waiting for this service to begin. vice president harris sat in front of him at one moment she looked over her shoulder as they were talking very quick glance back at obama and trump talking to know if anyone else saw interaction, i didn't see any interaction win i was watching this between vice president harris and obama or the bidens who sat right next to her. it seems there is literally no interaction that i saw throughout the course of this so it was pretty easy. let's bring nvidia buzz hosts how he cursed who interviewed all of those presidents lined up there hugh hewitt also spent time with all these presidents i believe the host of syndicated syndicated radio talk show host here hewitt good to have both of you. how he let me start with you i think all of us who cover these people closely over all these years

karen pence was not with him.ed earlier about what was clearly tension between her and the former president, remembering on january 6th, she was sheltering in safety along with some of their children, as i understand it, and the vice president, as those mobs who were storming the capitol -- >> yelling to hang mike pence. i think as a wife, that's very difficult to forget. >> understandable. and she can't forget. we're acknowledging the awkwardness. i don't know if irony and awkward are the right words to even choose when we talk about joe biden peacefully transferring power to donald trump, whose supporters tried to stop that transfer of power in 2021, and the biden campaign that ran on this idea of an existential threat to democracy, even in that farewell speech that president biden just delivered, warning of this dark future, saying, stand guard, talking about oligarchs as we look at the ceos in the room. tech billionaires. and today, walking side-by-side in this diplomatic, genteel way, as if none of that had h

mike pence, his wife karen, saying hello to al gore. uh, we did not see a greeting of or by president trump. there he is saying hi to marilyn quayle. uh, well, they did shake hands. did shake shake. okay. i couldn't see it from the angle i was at, uh, obama and trump sitting next to each other, talking to each other there. but president obama did say hello to marilyn quayle and former vice president dan quayle. >> well, that's such an image there. >> that is an image. i mean, you don't you don't see. it's always striking whenever you see any of these people who were political opponents. although obama and trump never ran against each other. here's george w. bush and first lady laura bush interesting how barack barack obama stood up to let them through again. um, saying hello to the former vice presidents al gore, mike pence george w. bush. >> i may have missed it, jake, but i do not think former president bush or laura bush shook hands with. >> they walked right past it. >> i with trump's i would find that very surprising if they didn't

guys, what was -- wasn't said which is that karen benz didn't even look at trump let alone talk to him when he walked directly by her, even though mike pence hands. which shows the politics that spouses take it a lot more seriously than the candidates themselves. and personally too. >> not to mention you had jill biden seated next to kamala harris and didn't look like there was any love loss there. >> not much chumminess, yeah. but speaking of chumminess, we did have w. come back and give the old like chest snap at barack obama like they were, you know, in a locker room together. >> he thumped him right in the stomach almost but completely ignored trump who was sitting next to him. >> and the decals at yale walking back in and said hello to him. it was vintage 43. it's a good point, though, that he did that to obama but didn't do it for trump which sort of tells you about trump's role, guys, in the former president's club which is a little bit awkward. >> it has everything to do with low energy jeb and what trump said about w.'s father. there's no way anything pleasant was going to go on between the trump and bush family. they're almost mo

pence, who presided over the electoral vote count you remember when then trump lost the election. this is the headline from fox news, saying the former vice president call it particularly admirable for the karen vice president kamala harris to preside over that election, saying a peaceful transfer of power is the hallmark of our democracy, and today members of both parties in the house and senate and the vice president certified the election of our president and vice president without controversy or objection. mike pence declared in a post on x, he congratulated president trump and vice president elect jd vance on their victory and hailed the return of order and stability to the certification process. that certification taking place yesterday as we have been showing you portions of it. you can still see the whole thing on our website, our app too. you can make comments on it on our lines. democrats, (202) 748-8000. republicans, (202) 748-8001. and independents, (202) 748-8002 . josh is in iowa, independent line. you are next up. go ahead. caller: thanks for taking my call. i just want to say i used to be a big democrat party supporter. i think what they do nowadays is they use donald trump fo